Local Reaction to Obama’s Gun Control Proposals

MONTEBELLO, Calif. (KTLA) — Gun sales have already been soaring, but the president’s gun control proposals may spark even more of a buying spree.

Gun enthusiasts at the Firearms Training Academy in Montebello believe the president’s comments may trigger another spike in sales.

Gun owners there are concerned that the president’s sweeping proposals may wind up infringing on the second amendment and an honest citizens right to bear arms.

Instructors at the training academy say California already has some of the toughest gun laws in the nation and the president’s proposals mainly replicate what California already has on the books.

Banning military style assault weapons, limiting ammunition magazines to 10 rounds and requiring background checks on all gun sales except private sales, which instructors say is optional in California, but should also be mandatory, might add another hurdle to guns getting into the hands of the wrong people.

California Republican Congressman Dana Rohrabacher says “The president’s proposals are either duplicative, thus unnecessary, or focus the government’s authority and power on controlling honest citizens rather than making it more likely to disarm criminals. Background checks have value but care needs to be taken that they do not violate the rights of law abiding citizens.”

465 comments

  • JohnJacob_JS

    as of late, i've been hearing people say they FEAR losing their 2nd Amendment rights. does anyone actually know of an american that has lost that right? obviously, not counting the people who are prohibited from owning a gun in the first place under the Gun Control Act of 1968.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_Control_Act_of_1

    seems like the FEAR of losing that right has been greater than any factual case that implicates the Feds in trying to abolish the 2nd Amendment. i wonder who would benefit by instilling that FEAR into the hearts and minds of americans? i wonder if there is some type of financial or political gain some person or some entity would have by scaring people into wanting to buy more and more guns? hmmm… i wonder…

    • nlynn

      after Katrina in NOLA the Federal and LA governments illegaly used the Army, National Guard and NOPD to confiscate in mass all firearms from law abiding citizens. Check it out, it's real. Yes, this action by FEMA and LA does qualify as a loss of our 2nd Ammendment right.

      • JohnJacob_JS

        i stand corrected. i did look into the Katrina gun confiscations. it does appear the local sherriff or police captain ordered his officers as well as the Federal responders to remove all guns from the citizenry. that incident most definitely qualifies as an infringement of the 2nd. albeit after the NRA sued the local government, the high courts sided with with the citizenry/NRA and forced the return of the seized guns deeming the actions unconstitutional.

        the fascinating part of this case is the less than ubiquitous coverage it garnered then as well as now. granted from what i understand of the people from this story, no individual's 2nd Amendment rights are still being infringed upon, i'm amazed that the NRA, being the representative of those people, simply "called it a day" afterwards. obviously, conditions were presented and accepted by all parties that this incident shall not occur again, i'm befuddled by the lack of thorough admonishing that the NRA delivered to the local government. some information about that case leads to the presumption that the NRA sold out those people for some type of exchange with the Feds. very interesting.

    • Looking4Sanity

      "… the FEAR of losing that right has been greater than any factual case…"

      Really? Prior to Prohibition, the Thompson sub-machine gun and the Browning Automatic Rifle (BAR) were both readily available to the general public.

      You're a dumb azz.

      • JohnJacob_JS

        insults are cool, aren't they? it clearly demonstrates a person's ability (or lack thereof) to discuss complicated and challenging issues when they resort to name calling.

        • Looking4Sanity

          Totally ignoring documented facts is really cool, isn't it…pinheaded moron? You should shut up now before you embarrass yourself even further.

          • JohnJacob_JS

            wait, are you asking me if i AM a pinheaded moron? or are you telling me i AM? or was your intent to ASK a question with "Totally ignoring documented facts is really cool, isn't it…" ? i'm just confused by the placement of your question mark.

            please clarify. i don't want to look silly.

          • JohnJacob_JS

            c'mon buddy. you can do better than that. at least "…pinheaded moron" was relatively clever, albeit antiquated, a la All In the Family or Sanford and Son.

            "retarded" is pretty weak.

          • Looking4Sanity

            It's not a question of whether or not I can do better or not. The effort would be wasted on someone of your obviously limited knowledge and intelligence. Go educate yourself…if you can.

          • JohnJacob_JS

            well, i'm learning a lot in this exchange already. like, how some relatively intelligent adults can have their emotions easily compromised by complete strangers and resort to sophmoric insults.

            i'll admit that i have limited knowledge about a lot of topics. in this thread alone i corrected myself after being provided information that i was not aware of. that's fair. i expect those with more insight or differing opinions to explain their perspectives. but, alas, sometimes, reasonable or rational banter is quickly abandoned for bullying and name calling.

            oh well, so be it. it's STILL a free country.

          • WTE

            Looking for Sanitys real name is chrales scoggins he is from VA.

            There now he is not a stranger, he is just a low life POS. He even wanted to nuke America here is what he said:

            1 week ago @ http://912wolverines.com/ – growl • 19 replies • -6 points

            I'm hoping for a nuclear holocaust myself. I wouldn't shed a tear if the whole country was reduced to cinders. It's no more than we deserve.

            And before his lover roger can jump in and defend him here is what he said:
            Roger 166p • 12 minutes ago
            My chuckle is that Iran is going to slip one through our admittedly very porous southern border and then detonate this in a US city

            Stay away from these two. These are the worst trolls you will ever come across

          • JohnJacob_JS

            ok, so Charles Scoggins from VA… now what? what are we suppose to do with that? all it does is point out how big of a tattle tale and whiner you are.

          • Roger

            WTE is a stalker, he's even posted what he thought was my phone number. And for him to quote that when he said this:
            "My chuckle is that Iran is going to slip one through our admittedly very porous southern border and then detonate this in a US city…" is amazing.

            Of course he denies it, but that doesn't make it any less true.

          • Roger

            So the sad stalker type is out posting real names. If it's all cool, why don't you post your own you pathetic pile of dog feces?

            Too much of a coward as you hide behind a work terminal?

          • Roger

            Poor little stalker just admitted what he's up to.You pretended this was a time killer and you didn't take it seriously. Did the other trolls get mad at that?So, you're here to leave a trail of debris behind you. That's why I pay such close attention to your comments.Troll.

          • WTE

            I admit I did to you what you tried doing to me and have doen to so many others. So go cry about it somewhere else you are not welcome here —

          • Roger

            And have done so to many others. As a muslim friendly troll I'm not surprised. And so when I hound you, you can go cry about it somewhere else as well.

            Pay backs are a real beetch.

          • WTE

            So once again you admit you're a mulsium friendly troll <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

          • WTE

            Nope. <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

          • WTE

            I use them to distract you. It works well <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

          • WTE

            No, I use them because you complain about them. I like to watch you whine <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

          • WTE

            Yes you are <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

          • WTE

            Then why did you go off topic? <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

          • Roger

            Why do you pretend I did?

            And why does your proxy server at work where you post at a work terminal trying to reach your quota every day, why does it produce headers?

          • WTE

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          • WTE

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      • Trish

        I think you and all of Obama's followers are the only idiots here. Guns don't kill…it's the low life scums that are killing people.

        We need a tougher justice system that punishes criminals, until that happens nothing will change.

        Furthermore, is Obama going to give up his armed guards for his kids? Why are they any different than our kids? He is the biggest "hippocrate"

          • Brian

            She is concerned about the duality. Obviously guns do work. Obviously lots of guns are a deterrent. Obviously if someone is highly trained with a firearm they are exceedingly safe. If these facts apply to the President, other elected officials, airports, sporting events, elitist schools and celebrities why the hell would they not advocate the same for everyone. It is the hippocracy that guns are OK for us but not you attitude that posses people off.

          • WTE

            So the SS is not armed guards? Are you saying they don't use guns?
            Pretrty sure they are armed and they guard the POTUS and his family.

          • JohnJacob_JS

            the function of the SS is divided between investigation of Financial Crimes and Protection of the POTUS, national leaders, their families and foreign diplomats. if you're insinuating that the SS be assigned to patrol the cafeterias of the nation's schools, then perhaps you should get your congressman to change the laws.

    • JohnJacob_JS

      oh wait, you meant that Obama is a communist dictator. good one tony. i haven't heard that all day. very sheep of you to assert that like the others.

  • HOWARD

    ITS TIME THE AMERICANS TAKE THE COUNTRY BACK, NO SCUMBAG LAWYERS IN OFFICE.
    LOOK AT OUR COUNTRY NOW THE STUPID ASSES IN OFFICE CANNOT EVEN BALANCE AMERICAS CHECK BOOK. AND THEY THINK STRICTER GUN CONTROL WILL SOLVE THE PROBLEM. LMFAO.

  • PublicNME

    If you're thinking about joining the NRA now would be a good time.Even if you don't own a gun you should be concerned Your rights are under attack once they take them their not coming back.We can't let these fools destroy everything our forefathers created and fought for.I can't believe this threat is coming from within.Honest Citizens are being systematically disarmed one law at a time.

          • WTE

            No, that would make me laugh even harder.

            You should try using independent sources or sites that you can't go edit yourself

            Just a suggestion.

          • JohnJacob_JS

            i missed what your suggestion was… as it relates to referencing the'94 assault weapons ban. please, allow some of that credible insight.

          • WTE

            The 94 assault weapon ban did NOTHING. As will this useless ban.

            How about focus on criminals and not focus on people who obey the law. The consequence of gun control is a society in which violent, anti-social people are armed while peaceful, law-abiding people are disarmed. Legislating gun safety results in greater safety for criminals only. Laws intended to keep guns from criminals end up keeping guns from some of the thousands of people who could use them to defend themselves and others daily, often without having to fire a shot.

          • Roger

            Gun control is serious.
            That's why it should be a serious debate minus all the insults and diversions.

            Hint, hint….

            Self defense is not they give us permission for, it's a right given us by our creator, the declaration of independence spells out that government isn't where our human rights come from.

          • Roger

            You don't get to decide what you let me do.

            And our founding fathers were clear about this.
            As soon as you let people decide, then it's a slippery slope.

          • WTE

            I just did. I wil ignore all BS religious comments you make. You can troll other threads. Can you show wher ethe christian god is mentioned in the DOI?

            You can't all you can show is "creator"

            This discussion is over. I will allow you to reply so reply trained monkey

          • Roger

            Another insult, another attempt to pretend you decide things.

            Our founding fathers laid out the protections and explained why. You may not like their dependence on a Creator. But they still did what they did.

          • patriothere

            Those guys who dressed up in ladies underwear and wore wigs did not believe in your creator. They were deists. They knew about the scientific revolution and threw out desert gods and religion a long time ago. They were freemasons.

          • Roger

            They came from England, a Protestant nation. They knew the Christian creator but didn't like churches. Your current twisted definition of deism ins't the same one they had.

            And you're one of those guys who dresses up in table cloths and wears rags on his head, right?

            Patriot, coggy needed help over on navy's site and here you were hiding? What a coward, you and hero should have been all over it.

          • patriothere

            The FLED england. They were freemasons. They were enlightened. They didn't adhere to desert religions like judaism and christianity and Islam. They were better than that. They were deists and were against your god for sure.

            That's why they brought up freemasonry.

            If they didn't like churches they could have been presbyterians

          • Roger

            They immigrated to an English colony. People who moved without any choice were the convicts relocated to Australia.

            Stick with muslim history, you don't have a clue with English culture. And Presbyterians had roots to the church in Scottland, again another dumb comment from another dumb troll.

          • patriothere

            The founders of america were freemasons. They weren't christian zionists like you. They weren't evangelicals like you. If they didn't like the churches they could have been Lutherans or Presbyterians. If they didn't like the priests they could have been Episcopalians. They had choices but they chose to be deists.

          • Roger

            Why, because you said so? They came from a Christian nation and all understood exactly what they meant by 'Their Creator…" in the declaration of Independence.

          • patriothere

            No not because I said so. Because they are facts.

            The FLED a christian nation and were Freemasons. Their creator was far from yours. They were not christian zionists. They were not evangelicals.

            They were freemasons.

            If they didn't like the churches they could have been Lutherans or Presbyterians. If they didn't like the priests they could have been Episcopalians. They had choices but they chose to be deists.

            You know, the Nazis were deists as well. They were very much like the Founding fathers. They opposed the religious lunatics and started their own creed.

          • Roger

            The facts are they came from a protestant country and knew exactly what they meant by 'Their Creator…" They didn't flee they immigrated to a colony, freely. Some were rich men that had done very well under the crown. You don't have to like a church with Christianity, you don't know enough about it to make sense.

          • patriothere

            They FLED a country they despised for their religion and for their creator. They formed their own creed, their own country, their own belief system. Freemasonry. Much like the Nazis the founders were pioneers.

            If you don't like priests you can an episcopalian, if you don't like bishops and the church hierarchy you can be a presbyterian or a lutheran or a protestant.

            That is why the founders left. They were not religious in the slightest. They were nothing like you. They weren't christian zionists. They weren't evangelicals.

          • Roger

            No, the colonies were England, they were English Colonies and under control the Crown. You don't even understand that much? Then how can you hope to pretend you understand the founding fathers?

          • patriothere

            They FLED a country they despised for their religion and for their creator. They formed their own creed, their own country, their own belief system. Freemasonry. Much like the Nazis the founders were pioneers.

            If you don't like priests you can an episcopalian, if you don't like bishops and the church hierarchy you can be a presbyterian or a lutheran or a protestant.

            That is why the founders left. They were not religious in the slightest. They were nothing like you. They weren't christian zionists. They weren't evangelicals.

          • Roger

            No, if they fled their country they would have left it's territory. The colonies were part of the country, so that's not what they did.

            You really don't get this do you?
            Your iranian education just isn't up on western history. Can they hire a westerner to teach in Tehran, or would they be as safe as Neda?

          • patriothere

            Read a history book retard.

            They FLED a country they despised for their religion and for their creator. They formed their own creed, their own country, their own belief system. Freemasonry. Much like the Nazis the founders were pioneers.

            If you don't like priests you can an episcopalian, if you don't like bishops and the church hierarchy you can be a presbyterian or a lutheran or a protestant.

            That is why the founders left. They were not religious in the slightest. They were nothing like you. They weren't christian zionists. They weren't evangelicals.

          • Roger

            They came to the new world, but it was still an English colony with Crown control.

            Had they fled their country it would have been to 'a different' country. Like leaving England for France, not leaving England for England.

            You Iranians, how inbred are you?
            http://europenews.dk/en/node/34368

            Oh scratch that. It doesn't matter you're a paid hack. The real question is how inbred are you handlers?

          • patriothere

            Read a history book retard.

            They FLED a country they despised for their religion and for their creator. They formed their own creed, their own country, their own belief system. Freemasonry. Much like the Nazis the founders were pioneers.

            If you don't like priests you can an episcopalian, if you don't like bishops and the church hierarchy you can be a presbyterian or a lutheran or a protestant.

            That is why the founders left. They were not religious in the slightest. They were nothing like you. They weren't christian zionists. They weren't evangelicals.

          • Roger

            They fled one part of England for another part of England. How is that fleeing the country? That would be like moving in iran from Tehran to the border near Iraq to flee the country.

            Even for a muslim that shouldn't make sense. Are your handlers just getting sloppy handing you a comment like that?

          • patriothere

            Read a history book retard.

            They FLED a country they despised for their religion and for their creator. They formed their own creed, their own country, their own belief system. Freemasonry. Much like the Nazis the founders were pioneers.

            If you don't like priests you can an episcopalian, if you don't like bishops and the church hierarchy you can be a presbyterian or a lutheran or a protestant.

            That is why the founders left. They were not religious in the slightest. They were nothing like you. They weren't christian zionists. They weren't evangelicals.

          • Roger

            They fled from England to another part of England. Did the pakistani rat child handler write that one?

            You need better handlers, even as lame as you are.

          • Roger

            They moved from one part of the country to another and weren't hunted downand killed in any 'honor killings'. So, the revolution was for freedoms, taxation with representation and on and on.

            Why am I explaining this to a muslim friendly hack troll whenhe's desperate to get back to his fiance in the barnyard?

            4 minutes ago @ KTLA-TV – Local Reaction to Obam… · 1 reply · 0 points
            jews do suicide bombs.

            stoning is a jewish thing.

            marrying goats is universal.

          • JohnJacob_JS

            if the '94 ban did nothing, why are people getting in a tizzy over the '13 ban? is it the fear that the government may one day walk into your house and take all 42 of your guns?

          • WTE

            It did nothing to prevent crime. People still got shot. All it did was make it illegal for law abding citizens to have assault weapons and HCM. Bad guys still had them

          • Roger

            This guy actually attacks the court system and thinks that some types of cases shouldn't even have trial, just lynchings. Like molestation cases. How many cases have been shown later to be bogus?

            He seems to be prefer the sharia court approach.

    • PublicNME

      If they were the same there would be armed security in every school.Yea I saw it I like it tells it how it is and.Exposes the double standard in this country

    • WTE

      Common sense dictates that inanimate objects, such as guns, are not responsible for human behavior. We don’t hold a match responsible for arson or a camera responsible for pornography. We rightly hold the people who misuse these tools liable.

          • Roger

            He is in the public arena and we are allowed to free political speech.

            Nobody has locked obama in a church and burned him to death sharia style based on rumors or opinions, as you have advocated for in the past.

            24 minutes ago @ Breitbart.tv – Soldier Found Guilty i… · 1 reply · +1 points
            The whole town needs locked in the church and the church set on fire. IMO

          • Roger

            Yes, and I would say Christians should have the right to bear arms, even if someone is trying to lock them into a building to burn them to death. Especially then!

          • Roger

            What about muslims. Does their religion allow any other loyalties other than sharia? Why should our enemies that are not allowed to care about us have guns to point at us?

            The Ft Hood shooting should never have happened, when he put the soldier of allah initials on his business card he should have been weeded out. How many dead should we tolerate before dealing with the reality they hate us and surah 9 mandates that they take us down?
            Look it up yourself! http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/9/

            9:5 Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

          • WTE

            So when the Founding Fathers said this they did not mean musliums?

            We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness

            "All men" means what it means. They did not say "just christians"

          • Roger

            Back to those texts? The old ones for the Jews in that one time and that even the Jews don't follow? The one that you never ever linked to the teachings of Christ for His followers?

            Well, let's see what mohammed gave for his followers that IS being followed, shall we?

            Surah 9. I'll just pick one at random since there are so many to choose from.
            9:33 He it is Who hath sent His messenger with the guidance and the Religion of Truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religion, however much the idolaters may be averse.

            Boy, that almost sounds like the caliphate is just another religion that will be over all men, until you connect it with the verse a couple higher in 29

            9:29 Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.

            Kind of explains the taliban, and al qaida doesn't it? No Christian groups like that is there? Or are you going to try linking the teachings of Christ to some small groups that fail as Christians?

          • Roger

            Don't blame me if they learn from a book that says this.

            9:5 Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

          • Roger

            I 'm a realist. The koran is available for everyone, why shouldn't I read and understand that you as an islamic activist are told not to be honest with me?

            9:1 Freedom from obligation (is proclaimed) from Allah and His messenger toward those of the idolaters with whom ye made a treaty.

          • patriothere

            No you're not. You're a warmongering zionist paid hack troll. A 50 year old loser.

            A realist would mention all the Muslims in America. All the Muslim Tea party patriots. All the Muslim doctors and lawyers and hard working people who just want to provide a living for their children.

          • patriothere

            "And will muslims in the US abide by any laws?"

            You're not a realist with comments like these. You are a paid hack zionist troll.

          • Roger

            I am a realist, you ignored my supporting mention of the Ft Hood shooting. Why is that? Al taqiyya is so hard when you have nothing to work with.

          • patriothere

            A realist? Not in the slightest.

            "And will muslims in the US abide by any laws?"

            When you say things like this you prove you are NOT a realist. Just a paid hack zionist twit.

            And the ft. hood guy was american. Americans shooting Americans.

          • Roger

            "Any laws" That's not an exact quote and you still can't show they would be more loyal to the secular laws over the sharia mandates, and in their activities that they could as loyal muslims ignore the surah 9 mandates. You know, like the Ft. Hood shooter. The shooter with the initials on his business card stating he was a 'soldier of allah'.

            Facts are stubborn things, even if you constantly ignore them.

          • patriothere

            "And will muslims in the US abide by any laws?"

            When you say things like this you prove you are NOT a realist. Just a paid hack zionist twit.

            And the ft. hood guy was american. Americans shooting Americans.

            The ft. hood soldier was american.

          • Roger

            Still not an exact quote.

            Boy, your handlers are tired and sloppy tonight.

            A soldier of allah isn't a loyal american if you use the ft hood shooter as an example.

          • patriothere

            Muslims are not communists. The cold war is over and a waste of time and resources. Muslims are not subversives trying to overthrow the US government.

            That is a zionist talking point put out by trolls like you!

          • Roger

            They are submitting to sharia, and the surah 9 mandates. And the Ft. Hood shooting, the other cases I mentioned shows they can be subversives if they follow islam.

            Those surah 9 mandates don't give muslim activists much wiggle room.

            And denying that reality is muslim friendly talking points, which you are paid to put out on the forum, remember saying so?

            6 minutes ago @ Breitbart.com – Protests to greet Ahma… · 1 reply · 0 points
            I'm like jesus, I'm gonna chase you money changers out of the temple and out of town and of course out of this forum. Me and ohsoquiet and a few other REAL AMERICANS who are being PAID to be here like you Israeli PR men. I'm here to chase you filth out.

          • patriothere

            Ft. Hood guy was American. sharia is god given law. jews and christians are in the same company.

            The only subversive is you.

          • Roger

            He was a muslim screaming about allah as he pulled the trigger, and is fighting to grow a beard in observance of his muslim faith. Facts are stubborn things, as stubborn as you are to ignore them even.

          • patriothere

            He was American sworn to protect the constitution of the United states. He should have fought the politicians that start the wars politically not the grunts.

          • Roger

            And look how little his sworn oath meant to him.

            Sharia and jihad meant more, which is why muslims are so risky in the west, you just can't tell when those pesky surah 9 mandates will take over.

          • patriothere

            It's classified as workplace violence. You never served so you will never understand what kind of stress out soldiers are under.

          • Roger

            By a person born and raised with a muslim heritage. Makes you wonder, if our own president of muslim heritage doesn't stay loyal to this country, how can we expect any person of muslim heritage to value secular laws?

          • patriothere

            You just show your hatred for Muslims. He can't help he was born into a Muslim heritage you hateful prick. You just choose to hate people you know nothing about.

          • patriothere

            You're delusional. You don't see the Muslims that love America and love freedom. You just hate and troll like a good zionist paid hack troll.

          • Roger

            Delusional about the ft hood shooter that screamed muslim things as he murdered unarmedfolks?

            And why do you want me to be in the same catagory as yourself, as a paid hack troll?

            6 minutes ago @ Breitbart.com – Protests to greet Ahma… · 1 reply · 0 points
            I'm like jesus, I'm gonna chase you money changers out of the temple and out of town and of course out of this forum. Me and ohsoquiet and a few other REAL AMERICANS who are being PAID to be here like you Israeli PR men. I'm here to chase you filth out.

          • patriothere

            The quran is as much of a holy text as the holy bible.

            Everything you say about Islam is true about christianity and judaism.

          • Roger

            No, typical of muslim sharia compliant hacks to not even consider women important.

            And it's islam on the march, I don't hear about Buddhists setting off car bombs, or arresting Christian pastors like Iran does.

          • Roger

            You get stuck covering weekends and nights for Wee, and just aren't up to it. Does he get the better drone handlers too? He just has all the luck trolling for Trista. Day shifts, the better work terminal…. you outed ohsoquiet, are you going to do the same to wee so you can get his troll patrol shift?

          • patriothere

            You don't want to talk about the crusades. You don't want to talk about the inquisition or the slaughter in gaza and the occupation of the palestinian territories. You are a zionist paid hack troll.

          • Roger

            Fine, let's talk about the crusaes. A Christian nation the Byzantine Empire, half of the Roman Empire was under assault by muslin invaders, why wouldn't they appeal to the other half of the old Roman empire for help? And why would Christians in the other half of that empire leave their fellow Christians at the barbaric hoards undefended?

            The inquisition? That's like what islam has in surah 9, right? Only you can't show it was called for in the Bible. So, islam demands barbarism but Christ's teaching don't. That's why the Bible is holy and not the koran. See how that works?

          • patriothere

            A violent barbaric christian nation. That is what they breed. No different than any other bastardized doctrine of the jews.

            christians and Muslims and jews are the same. Thanks for admitting it.

            the bible and quran are one in the same.

          • Roger

            Is that what your clerics tell you? Then why is the most violent hot spots always involve muslim militants? You know, Yemen, Somalia, Gaza, Egypt, Sudan… How many would you like? And none of them are violent Christians. And you didn't give an example of a terrorist attack my Buddhists. Can't your handlers make up something on that?

            And when you say those two books are equal it insults the evil of islam. Do want it side by side with it's opposite?

          • patriothere

            Is that what your clerics tell you? Then why is the most violent hot spots always involve muslim militants?

            They're not. Britain is a violent nation, china america etc. there are plenty of examples.

            christians and jews commit terrorist attacks. Ask abortion clinics. The inquisition. The crusades the irgun the state of israel, the USS liberty terror attack. The king david bombings. jews throughout history.

            The IRA the vatican etc. It's all there clear as day. Except for the zionist paid hack trolls.

          • Roger

            The crime rate is much higher in Nigeria, in Somalia, in Yemen.

            I would say it's pretty violent in Iran too, if you ask Neda. Oh, that's right she was murdered.

          • Roger

            What about Syria? Sounds pretty muslim to me.

            Go back to being a paid iranian hack troll. Oh, you never stopped. What am I thinking…?

          • patriothere

            Like you care about Syrians. Please. You don't care about the lives of those people. They're enemies of israel. They deserve to perish just like it says in the bible. That is all you christian zionist filth care about is that shitty little bandit state stolen from the arabs.

          • patriothere

            Like you care about Syrians. Please. You don't care about the lives of those people. They're enemies of israel. They deserve to perish just like it says in the bible. That is all you christian zionist filth care about is that shitty little bandit state stolen from the arabs.

          • patriothere

            What about Syria? You don't care about Syria. You just repeat the same troll zionist talking points. Typical.

          • Roger

            I understand you keep saying that, and I don't have a clue why you do.Do you think that people wanting to live free and protect themselves from the barbaric sharia demands have to get encouragement to do so?That's the forced islamic activist mind set.

          • patriothere

            You sound like the Muslim characters you invent in your head. Osama bin laden made the same argument. I told you Muslims and christians are the same.

          • patriothere

            Just because you say no doesn't make it so. You paid hack zionist troll.

            Osama also told his followers to protect fellow Muslims. Just like you in your story of christians helping their fellow christians with the crusades. Why not call it the jihads?

            It's the same shit. christians and jews are as loyal as Muslims. There is no difference.

          • Roger

            You realize that doesn't work. Osama planned and murdered innocent civilians. So, the two aren't comparable.

            There is a difference.
            The surah 9 mandates.

          • patriothere

            And the crusades murdered innocent people. Oh wait, they were Muslims so it's ok. As long as Muslims are being killed it's ok.

            Paid hack zionist troll talking points are not fooling anybody.

          • Roger

            Yeah, that's what the Byzantines said. They aren't here to repeat it though, they were all attacked my those barbaric muslim hoards.

            You are so easy to toy with, how many handlers are trying to put together comments for you tonight? You can't type this fast so you have to have some help. Can't you pick it up, I'm getting boards waiting for you post garbage.

            Al taqiyya, you can't even do that very well.

          • patriothere

            Yeah but all those Muslims killed. You don't care about them right? They're just stinky dirty terrorists right?

            You zionist hatefilled prick. You 50 year old loser.

          • Roger

            If islam doesn't like war, then they shouldn't live for it.

            It's a risk you take when your jihad wants to conquer the world.

            Do they at least get a goat for those universalweddings first?

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            jews do suicide bombs.

            stoning is a jewish thing.

            marrying goats is universal.

          • patriothere

            all those Muslims killed. You don't care about them right? They're just stinky dirty terrorists right?

            You zionist hatefilled prick. You 50 year old loser.

          • Roger

            Why would I do that, it's not like you post anything worth reading.Besides, don't you want to spend time with the universal goat bride?Hahahahahaha….You really do make this way to easy, to be fair it might be your handlers mocking you too.

          • Roger

            As long as I can defend myself, why shouldn't I be able to stop those who are working to kill me?Do you work to stop those trying to kill you? Did Iran attack Iraq when you were at war?As long as islam considers itself at war with the rest of the world, what do you expect?

          • Roger

            So, you can defend yourself by kidnapping and murdering people like Daniel Pearl, but when America reacts to the murder of civilians like 9/11 we're not entitled?You silly muslims. You don't get to decide that.

          • patriothere

            Iran defended itself from Iraq after Iraq supported by America invaded Iran. Iran has a right to defend itself!

          • patriothere

            The christians were compelled to take jerusalem from the Muslims and back to the jews. christians are nothing but crypto-jews. The holy grail? Does that ring a bell.

            faggot!

          • patriothere

            The christians were compelled to take jerusalem from the Muslims and back to the jews. christians are nothing but crypto-jews. The holy grail? Does that ring a bell.

            faggot!

          • patriothere

            It's what the crusades was about. Taking the land of jerusalem from the Muslims and giving it back to the jews.

            since christianity is just a fake religion bastardized version of judaism the christians were pawns of the jews to wrestle control of jerusalem from the Muslims and give it to the jews who have been trying to have that land for world domination since time immemorial.

          • Roger

            The invading muslims stole that land, defending it was what the crusades were about. More al taqiyya?

            Why don't you tell me how the newly invading muslims were entitled to that land more than the people who were already there?

          • patriothere

            No they didn't. The invading canaanites and the invading hebrews stole the land from the arabs and then in the early 20th century the zionist jews stole it from the Arabs again.

          • Roger

            The Assyrians destroyed the Canaanites. The Jews and Samaritans were in the land and ruled by the Byzantime empire until the muslim invaders stole it. Why lie now?

            Just wanting to get back to the little lady out in the barn?

          • patriothere

            The land of canaan belonged to hte canaanites long before the jews and hebrews invaded and stole the land. Canaanites are arabs. They converted to Islam.

          • Roger

            And will the muslims allowthem the right of return?Theywon't evendothat forthe Copts in Egypt wholive under apartheid.

            Youreally needto spend more time with your fiance in the barnyard,you sound sostressed!

          • patriothere

            The crusades happened after the bible was written so naturally it wouldn't have been in there. But the jews want jerusalem for themselves. Hence the massacre going on in the Palestinian territories.

          • Roger

            The Bible is full of prophecy. Unlike your koran our God knows the future. If the Almighty had wanted it done, He would have had a prophet tell about it ahead of time.

          • patriothere

            The bible is full of lies.

            The crusades happened after the bible was written so naturally it wouldn't have been in there. But the jews want jerusalem for themselves. Hence the massacre going on in the Palestinian territories.

          • patriothere

            Muslims this and Muslims that. They are the sweetest people I have ever met. Can't say the same for your precious jews who murder palestinian children and mutilate their children.

          • Roger

            Christian this and Christian that.Theyare the sweetist people i've met.

            Andtheywould never havea universal goat bridewaiting in the barnyard.

          • Roger

            Unlike you muslims with Al Taqiyya, Christians don't have permission to lie. You can't show it's in Christ's teachings because it's not.That's one of the main things that show we worship a totally different God than your allah.

          • Roger

            You don't know enough to pretend to know.And you haven't shown we should pay taxes more than once to corrupt tax collectors from Babylon. That's what it was about.

      • patriothere

        You have to admit however that holmes would not have been able to kill as many people as he did with a knife? Right? Common sense?

        Also, the founding fathers said the right to bear arms. Which meant muskets. Do you think they would be advocating for people to have the right to bear nuclear arms?

        common sense right?

        • WTE

          No, and you have to admit he could made simple homeade bombs and killed more then he did with a gun.

          Not nuclear arms but they would tunr over in their graves if they knew what was going on with gun bans today

          • patriothere

            What exactly is going on with gun bans today? They seem to be just rehashing the old gun control polices that were to in place in the 90's under clinton.

            Obamas proposal

            .

          • patriothere

            I provided Obamas proposal on this forum. Do you agree with any of them? Like the universal background checks that most responsible gun owners and NRA members support?

          • patriothere

            Do you agree with any of the items in his proposal. Answer my question first. I asked you first. I provided a list.

          • patriothere

            I asked you first. I actually posted obamas proposal and I did it before you faggot! Post regans shit. Universal background checks. Are you for or against?

          • Roger

            And I asked you second. So what? Do you need me to post Reagan's proposals? Why are you getting so cranky, was it that story on marrying goats in Sudan? Don't the clerics in Iran allow it yet?

          • patriothere

            I actually posted obamas proposal and I did it before you faggot! Post regans shit. Universal background checks. Are you for or against?

          • patriothere

            Since I went first, answer my question first. I presented obamas full proposal. Do you agree with any of them? I assume you will say no.

            Even though some of them are even supported by the NRA and majority of responsible gun owners.

          • Roger

            Answer my question and then I'll have another reason you should answer another question.

            You paid iranian hack.
            You still can't keep up with me, can't your handlers call in some more help?

          • patriothere

            Answer my question first. Then I will answer yours you pesky zionist troll.

            I can go on forever and you know I will!

          • Roger

            You answer my question, unless the univseral goat bride is distracting you too much.

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            jews do suicide bombs.

            stoning is a jewish thing.

            marrying goats is universal.

          • Roger

            Why would I care? Willing women are much better, unless you have an universal goat bride of course, I didn't mean to disrespect your bride or anything…

            Hahahaha….

            You make this so easy, you really need better handlers.

          • Roger

            The kind of woman that lives in the barn? I'll pass thank you. I'll stick to human women, here they're pretty much the universal bride, not goats.

          • Roger

            MYOB

            A six sexuallydeviant stalker isn't someone I discuss that with.

            The other trolls are at navy's site, but you are too mucha coward to show up, I neverthought wee was braver than you are.

            Coward.

          • Roger

            And you always step in when wee is off for the weekend and patriot is busy in the barnyard with a universal goat bride.Does Trista like you talking dirty like that? No wonder he only hires guy trolls.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Could you please stop thinking about WeeTodd cock for one fucking day?

            you friend Kevin got ten years. You will be waiting a long time for your child raping friend.

          • Roger

            You stalk me demanding information on my sex life.You are the deviant sexual predator and stalker. Have you set up any more gay site profiles in my name lately?So brave until it comes to navy, is he scary or something? Or just not your type? You muslim friendly stalkers are so twisted.And you're still hiding here instead of following even 1964 over to navy's site.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Why haven't you taken down your gay fastcupid profile?

            You like it that much?

            How much dick do you think Kevin has had to suck since he wenrt to jail?

          • Roger

            Is that the site you run?And Kevin isn't in jail. I email him regularly. He's a normal person so it's not like a twisted freak such as yourself.

          • Roger

            And you still stalk me and want to talk dirty.Is Trista withholding from you?Hahahahahahaa.You muslim friendly trolls are way to easy, even if i don't get you talking about goats.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Does he email; you back fuck face?

            The answer is NO!!!!!!!

            Kevin is in jail for ten years asswipe.

            Just like you should be.

            You two are the most queer, creepy fucks on the internet.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Does Kevin write you back on emial in 11 weeks???

            Why can't you answer that? Child porn loving creepy fuck.

          • Roger

            You're a sicko stalker type that wants to collect my head in a basket.You really expect me to discuss my personal life with you? Not going to happen.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Every time you get caught in one of your fucking lkies, you run away like a fucking creepy asswipe. you DID NOT get any emails from Kevin you child porn protecting POS.

            I exposed you again.

          • Roger

            Every time you as a creepy stalker realize how little you know about me you get upset.Go dream about someone else's head in a basket for a change.

          • patriothere

            Are you against all of these?

            •Requiring criminal background checks for all gun sales, including those by private sellers that currently are exempt.
            •Reinstating and strengthening the ban on assault weapons that was in place from 1994 to 2004.
            •Limiting ammunition magazines to 10 rounds.
            •Banning the possession of armor-piercing bullets by anyone other than members of the military and law enforcement.
            •Increasing criminal penalties for "straw purchasers," people who pass the required background check to buy a gun on behalf of someone else.
            •Acting on a $4 billion administration proposal to help keep 15,000 police officers on the street.
            •Confirming President Obama's nominee for director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.
            •Eliminating a restriction that requires the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives to allow the importation of weapons that are more than 50 years old.
            •Financing programs to train more police officers, first responders and school officials on how to respond to active armed attacks.

          • patriothere

            Are you against all of Obamas proposal?

            •Financing programs to train more police officers, first responders and school officials on how to respond to active armed attacks

            This is a proposal up for proposal right now in real time. Not 30 years ago!

          • patriothere

            Are you against all of Obamas proposal?

            •Financing programs to train more police officers, first responders and school officials on how to respond to active armed attacks

            This is a proposal up for proposal right now in real time. Not 30 years ago!

          • Roger

            Still afraid your handlers are sneaking out to the barnyard to borrow your 'universal goat bride' while you're busy here?

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            jews do suicide bombs.

            stoning is a jewish thing.

            marrying goats is universal.

          • patriothere

            Is trista your imaginary friend?

            You're columbian. Why lie about it? Columbians fuck donkeys. Don't you think it would be wise that if you're gonna fuck the donkey to consummate the thing?

          • patriothere

            •Requiring criminal background checks for all gun sales, including those by private sellers that currently are exempt.
            •Reinstating and strengthening the ban on assault weapons that was in place from 1994 to 2004.
            •Limiting ammunition magazines to 10 rounds.
            •Banning the possession of armor-piercing bullets by anyone other than members of the military and law enforcement.
            •Increasing criminal penalties for "straw purchasers," people who pass the required background check to buy a gun on behalf of someone else.
            •Acting on a $4 billion administration proposal to help keep 15,000 police officers on the street.
            •Confirming President Obama's nominee for director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.
            •Eliminating a restriction that requires the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives to allow the importation of weapons that are more than 50 years old.
            •Financing programs to train more police officers, first responders and school officials on how to respond to active armed attacks.

          • Roger

            Sounds like your universal goat bride wants us unarmed and unable to defend ourselves.

            Why is that mr muslim friendly hack paid troll? Don't you need to check on your fiance to make sure no one is ahead of you?

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            "jews do suicide bombs.

            stoning is a jewish thing.

            marrying goats is universal. "

          • Roger

            Why, you think my poor milk goat has some muslim sneaking up on it, looking for a wife?

            Hahahahaha…

            You don't realize how bad you sound, do you? Your handlers, if they know they're mocking you.

          • Roger

            You are the one that keeps defending that barnyard sex.We in the west are taught to use willing women. Too bad the 8th century throwbacks haven't advanced that far.

          • patriothere

            •Requiring criminal background checks for all gun sales, including those by private sellers that currently are exempt.
            •Reinstating and strengthening the ban on assault weapons that was in place from 1994 to 2004.
            •Limiting ammunition magazines to 10 rounds.
            •Banning the possession of armor-piercing bullets by anyone other than members of the military and law enforcement.
            •Increasing criminal penalties for "straw purchasers," people who pass the required background check to buy a gun on behalf of someone else.
            •Acting on a $4 billion administration proposal to help keep 15,000 police officers on the street.
            •Confirming President Obama's nominee for director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.
            •Eliminating a restriction that requires the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives to allow the importation of weapons that are more than 50 years old.
            •Financing programs to train more police officers, first responders and school officials on how to respond to active armed attacks.

          • patriothere

            "And will muslims in the US abide by any laws?"

            This little statement proves you are delusional. Not a realist at all.

          • Roger

            Not really, after the Ft. Hood shooting, the Atlanta recruiter shooting, the Seattle Jewish Center shootings, it's a legitimate question. Do you want a longer list?

            I'm a realist, and you're just a paid hack troll.

          • patriothere

            A realist would see the Muslim doctors the Muslims patriots.

            A paid hack zionist troll would cite sporadic shootings.

          • Roger

            I see muslim doctors, I see muslim patriots.
            But they are patriotic only to sharia and the caliphate they want to force on the world. So, seeing them doesn't make me want to encourage them.

            And only a muslim paid hack would ignore systematic shootings.
            And before guns it was systematic conquest by means possible, as the Byzantine empire, this is nothing new. It's the way islam behaves since the 8th century.

          • patriothere

            Ok then. You see Muslim patriots. Muslim American Tea party patriots.

            There is nothing you can say about Muslims that cannot be said about christians and jews. They have the same god and come from the same desert tribal area. That is an inescapable fact.

            Systematic shooting done by the IRA? Or the shas party? OR the irgun terrorists.

          • patriothere

            There are Muslim tea party patriots.

            There is nothing you can say about Muslims that cannot be said about christians and jews.

          • Roger

            Sure, suicide bombers are a muslim thing.

            Stoning rape victims is a muslim thing.

            Marrying goats is a muslim thing.

            Child brides is a muslim thing.

            Jihad is a muslim thing.

            Sharia with the demand to murder apostates is a muslim thing.

            How long a list do you want?

          • patriothere

            jews do suicide bombs.

            stoning is a jewish thing.

            marrying goats is universal.

            child brides is all three judaic religions.

            jihad is the same thing that happened in the crusades.

            sharia is no different than talmudic law.

            the bible and it's plan for world domination and slavery for gentiles is a jewish thing.

          • Roger

            Jews don't do suicide bombs. When a muslim activists strikes with one they retrieve all the body parts for burial.

            Stoning? When was the last time a Jew stoning happened? It happens today under islam. One has progressed, and it's not sharia.

            Marrying goats? It's universal only under sharia. How is the little lady doing? You realize I'm going to save and quote that all over the place?

            Child brides only happens under islam.

            Sharia is so different you can't honestly defend it but have to lie about it.

          • Roger

            Jews this and that. And you didn't show a single Jew doing any of it. I showed muslims twice just in the past week in totally different parts of the world.

            Are you just not focusing so well, is the fiance in the barn calling to you?

            The fact is muslim sharia looks the other way, no other culture does so like islam with it's universal goat weddings.

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            jews do suicide bombs.

            stoning is a jewish thing.

            marrying goats is universal.

          • patriothere

            jews have been plaguing nations for centuries. Ask the Ancient egyptians the Romans the Germans the Americans the People in the middle east. They are responsible for all the bad things in the world. They invented christianity. They invented Islam.

          • Roger

            Like sharia since the 8th century?

            Is it time for you to go back to the fiance in the barnyard?

            You know, one of those universal goat weddings?

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            jews do suicide bombs.

            stoning is a jewish thing.

            marrying goats is universal.

          • Roger

            You must mean like muslims since the 8th century. Was mohammed nice to leave his 6 year old bride her doll to play with too?

            You really are sick enough to mean goat weddings are universal like you said.

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            jews do suicide bombs.

            stoning is a jewish thing.

            marrying goats is universal.

          • Roger

            But that's not accurate. But it is with islamic teachings since the 8th century.Why are you here hearing boring real facts when you have a universal goat bride waiting in the barnyard?Do you want your handlers to have all the fun with her? You poor stressed husband. Did you just marry a slut this time around?

          • Roger

            Says the guy who advocates goat brides.You really aren't credible enough to say what Jews like, you don't have enough spare time outside the barn to learn.

          • WTE

            So basically nothing to stop criminlas and it only make it harder or illegal for me to get or own some of these items.—

          • Roger

            So, what other names are you going to post on line? Of course we know that you're a pathetic stalker type, are you going to describe his yard and neighbors like you did to me?

            What a sad freak.

          • patriothere

            •Provide additional $20 million to help expand the a system that tracks violent deaths across the nation from 18 states to 50 states.
            •Providing $30 million in grants to states to help schools develop emergency response plans.
            •Providing financing to expand mental health programs for young people

          • Roger

            So, you keep avoiding the question.

            Will muslims avoid using arms in illegal ways, you know like that soldier of allah did at Ft. Hood?

          • Roger

            So I simply ignore your talking points, a real insult to paid hacks.

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            I'm like jesus, I'm gonna chase you money changers out of the temple and out of town and of course out of this forum. Me and ohsoquiet and a few other REAL AMERICANS who are being PAID to be here like you Israeli PR men. I'm here to chase you filth out.

          • patriothere

            A realist would see the Muslims patriots, the Muslim doctors and the Muslims who denounce violence and terror.

            A terrorist is somebody from all races, religions and creeds.

          • Roger

            The ones that raped 6 year old brides?
            The ones still marrying child brides?

            Or the ones in the tribal regions of Pakistan that live only for jihad?

          • patriothere

            A realist would see the Muslims patriots, the Muslim doctors and the Muslims who denounce violence and terror.

            A terrorist is somebody from all races, religions and creeds.

          • Roger

            Cut and paste? Don't they pay you enough to make up new lies?

            And islam is only patriotic to the desired caliphate. I see that, but am opposed to it. And islam has the surah 9 mandates, so it may be from all races, and but not all religions or creeds. How many Buddhist terrorists have set off car bombs? Huh?

            And I thought you said only hacks would cite sporadic shootings, but here you are doing just that without even any examples to point towards. So, who's the hack troll?

            Hahahahha…. you really make this too easy. I don't know how much they pay you, but it's too much.

          • patriothere

            Muslims are just as patriotic as christians and jews. No more, no less. You bring out the ugly in society. Just like your ugly creepy face!

            How many christian terrorists? Millions. How many jewish terrorists? Millions.

          • patriothere

            Muslims are just as patriotic as christians and jews. No more, no less. You bring out the ugly in society. Just like your ugly creepy face!

            How many christian terrorists? Millions. How many jewish terrorists? Millions.

          • patriothere

            Muslims are just as patriotic as christians and jews. No more, no less. You bring out the ugly in society. Just like your ugly creepy face!

            How many christian terrorists? Millions. How many jewish terrorists? Millions.

          • Roger

            Only to something different, the desired caliphate.

            And you have shown you know the muslim talking points, you can't show that there are millions of Christian terrorist. You just throw those things out, does it impress the fiance? What does a goat like to hear?

          • patriothere

            Through out history there have been millions of christian and jewish terrorists. The dark ages. The inquisition. The state of israel. The jews throughout history.

            How long a list do you want?

          • Roger

            Like the terrorists in Spain throwing out the muslim invaders? Like the crusades fighting agains the muslim invaders?

            What terrorists exactly? You know like the muslim ones that slaughter people in churches as a matter of habit….
            http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-19161082

            Why were they so cranky in Nigeria, don't they know about the universal goat weddings?

            4 minutes ago @ KTLA-TV – Local Reaction to Obam… · 1 reply · 0 points
            jews do suicide bombs.

            stoning is a jewish thing.

            marrying goats is universal.

            child brides is all three judaic religions.

          • patriothere

            Like the terrorists in Spain throwing out all the jewish subversives. The terrorists in spain that imposed the inquisition.

            The hillbillies in America and europe that have sex with their horses and sheep and goats.

            Don't cherry pick loser.

          • Roger

            And can you show that the teachings of Christ demanded it?

            So, you just can't get around the fact that islam demands it, Christians did it once or twice hundreds of years ago in spite of teachings against that kind of barbarism?

            And the Christians drove Jews from Spain. How did the muslims drive the Jews for Saudi Arabia? They pushed them into the desert to die. Did the Christians do that?

            You really are stuck on cherries, is the fiance waiting out in the barn? I realize that goat weddings are universal, according to you anyhow.

            4 minutes ago @ KTLA-TV – Local Reaction to Obam… · 1 reply · 0 points
            jews do suicide bombs.

            stoning is a jewish thing.

            marrying goats is universal.

            child brides is all three judaic religions.

          • patriothere

            Like the terrorists in Spain throwing out all the jewish subversives. The terrorists in spain that imposed the inquisition.

            The hillbillies in America and europe that have sex with their horses and sheep and goats.

            Don't cherry pick loser.

          • Roger

            And the muslim terrorists in the US are still possibly here.

            Now why would you think I want to keep and bear arms?

            In case the ft hood shooter wasn't he only one born of a muslim heritage perhaps? Nice of you to admit that matters.

            Now, don't you want to check on your barnyard babe, the universal goat bride?

            4 minutes ago @ KTLA-TV – Local Reaction to Obam… · 1 reply · 0 points
            jews do suicide bombs.

            stoning is a jewish thing.

            marrying goats is universal.

          • patriothere

            Not all Muslims are terrorists. There are Muslim patriots and Muslim tea party patriots. There's nothing you can say about Muslims that cannot be said about jews and christians.

          • patriothere

            No they are not. All christians that follow matthew 34 are terrorists. All jews who follow the bible are terrorists.

          • Roger

            The only fulfillment of Matthew 34 is when muslims come at us with swords.That makes the muslim activists the terrorists. You make this way to easy. Are you too tired for a long night with you new temporary goat bride?What kind of divorce lawyer handles that kind of things under sharia?

          • patriothere

            They are terrorists. They are working towards one world zionist government. I notice your stone cold silent about that fact. Why not talk about ZOG? Or the inquisition? Or the crusades? Or the christian violence for the last several hundred years. christianity is from the desert and barbaric. as is judaism.

            Why not study something peaceful ?

          • Roger

            No, the muslim activists are terrorist.

            And did the Jews kill and murder a church full of Nigerians? American hostages in Algeria?

            I can make an awfully long list, islam is that barbaric. Ask the goat in Sudan forced into a marriage.

          • patriothere

            did the jews kill christ? Were they responsible for the inquisition? The crusades? The ritual murder of christian babies? Did they kill 66 million white christian russians? The bolsheviks were not Muslims right? Or are you gonna lie about them too?

          • Roger

            Romans killed Christ.
            And did their teachings want the inquisition?
            The ritual murder of what babies? Do you have a link or source?
            Did communists kill russians? Yes.

            Why would I lie, you have that down pat.

          • patriothere

            Typical of a zionist paid hack troll to say romans killed christ when everybody knows jews killed christ.

            The inquisition was demanded by god. That's what you get from god. jewish ritual murder was rampant throughout europe during those times. They would take christian babies and mutilate them. http://gblt.webs.com/Jewish_Ritual_Murder.htm

            jewish bolsheviks were not Muslim. They were jews. Trotsky was jewish. All the commissars were jews. That is a fact.

          • Roger

            It's recorded, in the Bible. The jews supported it, but only the Romans could impose the death penalty.

            And while you have shown you didn't make up the lie, you can't show it's due to any teaching of Christ. So, Christians don't mutilate babies. Another lie muslim hacks are paid to spread.

            You are so predictable. So is diaper rash only you stink worse.

          • patriothere

            The inquisition was demanded by god. That's what you get from god. jewish ritual murder was rampant throughout europe during those times. They would take christian babies and mutilate them. http://gblt.webs.com/Jewish_Ritual_Murder.htm

            jewish bolsheviks were not Muslim. They were jews. Trotsky was jewish. All the commissars were jews. That is a fact.

          • patriothere

            The inquisition was demanded by god. That's what you get from god. jewish ritual murder was rampant throughout europe during those times. They would take christian babies and mutilate them. http://gblt.webs.com/Jewish_Ritual_Murder.htm

            jewish bolsheviks were not Muslim. They were jews. Trotsky was jewish. All the commissars were jews. That is a fact.

            King James Version (KJV)

            34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

          • Roger

            Of course not, that would be the muslim invaders were demanded to do so by the barbaric muslim leadership.

            And the rest of your comment? Why do you blather so much, is that just cheap filler your handers toss in to confuse the issues? They can't keep up and you can't find anyone else to help you tonight?

            Poor little muslim paid hack troll.
            Is the little lady calling from the barn? When did goat weddings become universal in your part of Iran?

            4 minutes ago @ KTLA-TV – Local Reaction to Obam… · 1 reply · 0 points
            jews do suicide bombs.

            stoning is a jewish thing.

            marrying goats is universal.

          • patriothere

            The inquisition was demanded by god. That's what you get from god. jewish ritual murder was rampant throughout europe during those times. They would take christian babies and mutilate them. http://gblt.webs.com/Jewish_Ritual_Murder.htm

            jewish bolsheviks were not Muslim. They were jews. Trotsky was jewish. All the commissars were jews. That is a fact.

            King James Version (KJV)

            34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

          • Roger

            Jesus was right, you want to use a sword on Christians.

            And the inquisition wasn't demanded by Christ. That text you quoted didn't say we were the ones killing, did it?

            You silly muslim friendly hack. I realize you probably need barnyard time with your universal goat bride.

          • Roger

            Of course not, and all the al taqiyya in the world won't change it.

            Your'e just cranky worying about that universal goat bride and all the handlers coming and going to the barnyard, I wonder how long before you snap and go spend some quality time?

            4 minutes ago @ KTLA-TV – Local Reaction to Obam… · 1 reply · 0 points
            jews do suicide bombs.

            stoning is a jewish thing.

            marrying goats is universal. "

            Did you marry a slut this time around or something?

          • patriothere

            So is matthew 34 made up? Did I make up matthew 34. No. I didn't think so.

            Muslims consummate the deeds. Not like columbians.

          • Roger

            You quoted it, then drew wrong conclusions, It doesn't say we are the ones using the swords, not like surah 9 does.You really need more barn time it sounds like.

          • Roger

            Of course not, Surah 9 says what it says.And the only conclusion by looking at the violence involving muslims is just that there is only one way to connect the dots.Like is happening to the Copts in their native Egypt.

          • Roger

            Poor little keithie. Still stuck with the same failed handers with the same failed comments.Is this where you start calling me a dirty Jew again?

          • Roger

            LIke invading muslims, or invading communists, or invading.. what ever. Self defense is a good thing.

            You muslims just want us to lay down and accept the caliphate, that's not going to happen. That must really bother iran, no wonder they're working so hard on the bomb.

          • Roger

            I bow to know one. Not any cleric, not any mullah. My Creator gave me rights that no one gets to take from me. Not even sharia.

            The byzantine empire attack is an example. And why? The koran demands that kind of action, surah 9 mandates you know…

            But you haven't shown Christ demanded it, why? The religions are polar opposites.

          • Roger

            I do what?
            Was that supposed to make sense, or did your handler have a pakistani rat child moment?

            Don't tell me he's going to sneak out to the barnyard with your universal goat bride while you're busy here posting propaganda?

            That slut!

          • Roger

            Um. that still didn't make any sense.

            Is the goat just driving you nuts? You know she wants it, those universal goat brides are supposed to do that, the guy in Sudan didn't even wait to marry her first.

            hahahahahaha…

            You really aren' the brightest are you? And your handlers? The short and stinky president of Iran could do better, but just barely.

          • patriothere

            Why because as a paid hack troll you can't tell the truth about ZOG? Your masters?

            Typical paid hack zionist troll.

          • patriothere

            Why is that every time I mention ZOG and zionist handlers you get all nervous and try to change the subject? Is it because I nailed you a long time ago when I said I am not being PAID to be here like you?

        • Roger

          And the 9/11 attackers wouldn't have been able to kill as many if they hadn't been allowed on planes. I like your logic, I'll have to bring it up over and over when you babble.

          • patriothere

            Yeah but how do you identify a terrorist without taking away their rights granted by the Constitution and the bill of rights. We can close our borders to all foreigners, but that's not gonna happen. We can stop our zionist foreign policy, but that's not gonna happen. We can coordinate efforts with the FBI CIA local police etc. There are a lot of things we can do. terror attacks don't happen everyday in America. Don't exploit tragedies for your own sick zionist agenda.

          • patriothere

            We can close our borders to all foreigners, but that's not gonna happen. We can stop our zionist foreign policy, but that's not gonna happen. We can coordinate efforts with the FBI CIA local police etc. There are a lot of things we can do. terror attacks don't happen everyday in America. Don't exploit tragedies for your own sick zionist agenda.

            How can you show a jew will ignore the bible and try to live in peace. and not follow isaiah 9

          • patriothere

            You're a 50 year old paid hack zionist troll who gets PAID to do this.

            You have no loyalty to any country. You may live in america but you are a subversive.

            I'm a real patriot. Hence the username.

          • Roger

            Patriot here, you just can't make any point, can't back up any claim and get mad and resort to personal insults. Come on now, you trista parsi trolls have done a lot of background research on me and know I'm doing well. But you don't the guts to release even your name or pic. So, who's the failed coward that hides in the shadows?

          • Roger

            A patriot of the caliphate you want.
            Not to any secular government.

            And you're still the admitted hack paid troll.

            6 minutes ago @ Breitbart.com – Protests to greet Ahma… · 1 reply · 0 points
            I'm like jesus, I'm gonna chase you money changers out of the temple and out of town and of course out of this forum. Me and ohsoquiet and a few other REAL AMERICANS who are being PAID to be here like you Israeli PR men. I'm here to chase you filth out.

          • patriothere

            A patriot who doesn't defend the dirty evil zionist state of israel. A patriot who does not want to fight wars for israels inerests. A patriot to America. And not to israel.

          • Roger

            So you mean a patriot to the caliphate and sharia forced on all mankind.

            And just because we have a president of muslim heritage doesn't mean we're muslim.

          • patriothere

            No I mean a patriot to these United states and all enemies foreign and domestic. That would be you zionist paid hack troll boy! You're not fooling me. I called you out from the beginning. I said I am not being PAID to be here like you!

          • Roger

            You mean a patriot to the sharia caliphate state. Don't back pedal now, it's the only way you can be safe in your universal weddings to goats.

            4 minutes ago @ KTLA-TV – Local Reaction to Obam… · 1 reply · 0 points
            jews do suicide bombs.

            stoning is a jewish thing.

            marrying goats is universal.

            child brides is all three judaic religions.

          • patriothere

            No I mean a patriot to these United states and all enemies foreign and domestic. That would be you zionist paid hack troll boy! You're not fooling me. I called you out from the beginning. I said I am not being PAID to be here like you!

          • Roger

            Not what muslim attackers are doing in real time.

            Your handlers are letting you down guy.

            You might as well slip out to the barnyard for some time alone with your universal goat bride.

            4 minutes ago @ KTLA-TV – Local Reaction to Obam… · 1 reply · 0 points
            jews do suicide bombs.

            stoning is a jewish thing.

            marrying goats is universal.

          • Roger

            That poor bride, no wonder all the handlers are so busy tonight. You just aren't man enough even for a universal goat bride. How sad….

            Do other muslim men mock you for it?

          • patriothere

            At least Muslims have the common decency to consummate the thing.

            Unlike those columbians who fuck donkeys and just leave them.

          • Roger

            No, muslim temporary marriages use divorce instead of just calling them whores.When we have divorce in the west non muslim culture it's a permanent marriage that failed.See, there is a difference.

  • patriothere

    I proved you wrong. At least Muslims have the decency to consummate the damn thing. Americans and europeans and columbians just fuck donkeys and hang them out to dry.

    How come every time I mention your zionist handlers you get all nervous? The truth hurts eh?

  • Roger

    Coming from a stalker type that was arrested as a teem your words mean even less. Are you still an expert at recreational drugs?

    67 weeks ago @ KOMO – Seattle, WA – Ind. teen pleads guilt… · 0 replies · +2 points
    I normally agree with what you say but not this time. I went to party when I was 18 many, many years ago. I pulled up in the driveway grabbed a beer out of my cooler and walked up to the house. As I got close to the house cops came out of the house. I told them I was not old enough to drink and the cop grabbed me "wall stunned" and took me to jail. I was charged with disorderly conduct, contributing, possession of marijuana. The pot was in the house, the underage kids were in the house and I was never "disorderly" , and I had never been in the house but since I was the oldest I got charged. I took it to a jury trial where the cops said I threw the pot in the house down the hallway the bag of pot then turned right and landed in the bathroom. Good thing I was lucky enough to hire a "criminal defense layer" to sort out all the lies the cops told. I was found "Not Guilty"

  • WTE

    So you can't show what you say is true <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

      • WTE

        You have not shown you are right <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

          • WTE

            Where? What evidence did you use? Where ARE your faCTS? <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

          • WTE

            No, you're distracted. I don't even see them <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

          • WTE

            More than you <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

          • Roger

            Still that 'wee' little man?

            Hahahahaha

            You really make this very easy. Do you realize how you invite that mockery?

            You can't hide that with headers wee.

          • WTE

            So you're upset I am more relevant than you. It's ok I realize that in real life you are not relevant so you use this as an escape and pretend relevance. Sorry but I needed to knock you down <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>

          • Roger

            If you were relevant I'd marvel at the change. You're not.

            And those headers, does the server add those or you just can't figure out how to spam sites without it?

  • Roger

    Still misquoting me?

    And when I say things like that you side step it. Why doesn't the muslim soldier of allah still abide by the regulations demanding he be clean shaven?

    You know that pesky ft hood shooter that murdered due to the muslim surah 9 mandates?

  • Roger

    Show me they do.

    Go ahead, show me that muslims hold secular law above sharia.

    And for each thing in the koran saying that I'll show you two muslims that proved otherwise.

    What a fool you are, you walk right into these traps.

  • Roger

    The fort hood shooter had cards with 'soldier of allah' on them. That's not exactly an American thing.

    You really need better handlers, these ones keep you looking more and more foolish all the time.

    And don't you want to get back to the fiance in the barnyard?

    You know for that muslim 'universale goat weddings' thing?

    4 minutes ago @ KTLA-TV – Local Reaction to Obam… · 1 reply · 0 points
    jews do suicide bombs.

    stoning is a jewish thing.

    marrying goats is universal.

  • patriothere

    "And will muslims in the US abide by any laws?"

    When you say things like this you prove you are NOT a realist. Just a paid hack zionist twit.

    And the ft. hood guy was american. Americans shooting Americans.

    The ft. hood soldier was american.

  • Roger

    Ah, that'sthe rub isn't it.

    So you admit hewasmuslim and hsi heritage made him act the wayhedid,

    After allthis tiem you cinallyslippedand admitted it.

    Youpoor hack, that's almost asbad asthe univsersal goat weddings you mentioened.

  • Roger

    You only proved that you don't like settling for the universal goat brides when someone else has larger barnyard animals.You must like big females. In the west, we value our willing human women. You guys don't know what you're missing.

  • Roger

    You only proved that you don't like settling for the universal goat brides when someone else has larger barnyard animals.You must like big females. In the west, we value our willing human women. You guys don't know what you're missing.

  • Roger

    You only proved that you don't like settling for the universal goat brides when someone else has larger barnyard animals.You must like big females. In the west, we value our willing human women. You guys don't know what you're missing.

  • patriothere

    I proved you wrong. At least Muslims have the decency to consummate the damn thing. Americans and europeans and columbians just fuck donkeys and hang them out to dry.

  • patriothere

    I proved you wrong. At least Muslims have the decency to consummate the damn thing. Americans and europeans and columbians just fuck donkeys and hang them out to dry.

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