ANGELUS OAKS, Calif. (KTLA) — San Bernardino County sheriff’s deputies continue looking for answers about the final dramatic moments in the manhunt for Christopher Dorner.
They’re sifting through the rubble of the cabin that burned down after a gun battle between Dorner and deputies on Tuesday.
Authorities haven’t officially confirmed that the body found in the cabin is Dorner’s, but the Sheriff John McMahon says that will happen soon.
Meanwhile, McMahon says that the manhunt for the former LAPD officer accused in four murders is now over.
Among those allegedly killed by Dorner is Det. Jeremiah McKay, who, along with another San Bernardino County sheriff’s deputy, was hit in the shootout on Tuesday.
“The deputy sheriffs that responded to this active shooting scene yesterday are absolutely true heroes,” McMahon said at a news conference on Wednesday.
“It was like a war zone, and our deputies continued to go in to that area and try to neutralize and stop the threat,” he added.
McMahon was asked on Wednesday about how the fire at the cabin began.
Officers were overheard on the scanner talking about bringing what they called “burners” into the cabin.
The sheriff says that deputies first used traditional tear gas to try to flush Dorner out.
When that didn’t work, he says they tried CS gas. It’s a highly flammable form of tear gas, and it’s more powerful.
“It was not on purpose. We did not intentionally burn down that cabin to get Mr. Dorner out,” McMahon said on Wednesday.
“Pyrotechnic-type canisters are commonly referred to as burners,” he added.
Another question is how Dorner was able to hide for as long as he did with so many people looking for him.
He stayed for as long as five days in a condo in the 1200 block of Club View Drive, near the Bear Mountain ski resort and just a stone’s throw away from the sheriff’s command post.
The condo was in an area where deputies had supposedly gone door-to-door searching for Dorner.
“I can tell you that the cabin in question had not been rented out since Feb. 6,” Dep. Sheriff Steve Kovensky said. “As I said, there was an extensive search in that area of the cabins.”
One final question pertains to the $1.1 million reward and who might get that — if anyone.
The reward language stipulates that the money goes for the capture and conviction of Chris Dorner. But Dorner is not going to be tried, since he’s believed to be dead.
The man who Dorner allegedly carjacked says he believes he deserves the reward, and he’ll fight to collect it.
-Eric Spillman reporting
87 Comments to “Questions Remain About Dorner Standoff, Reward”
February 14, 2013 at 6:39 AM
Donate the million to helping secure our schools. Let's make some good come out of this.
February 14, 2013 at 6:51 AM
How about donating the reward to the 4 kids that now have to grow up without their fathers?
February 14, 2013 at 7:00 AM
What are they trying to hide here, everything, that press conference was truly a joke, stump these dummies on a few questions and their out of there, they are saying they were using "burners" what a joke, all i heard on those two scanner recordings was "burn that place down" "burn that motherf……", what does that mean ? "going with the burn" copy, "like we talked about", the evidence here is to strong to deny their actions, they are still making up stories to cover their asses !! When that cop was asked about the cabin dorner was in and why it hadn't been searched, he turned multiple shades of red then got off the stage as fast as he could, feel the heat, get out of the kitchen, things will never change as long as cops investigate cops !! learn to live with it, wonder why citizens get frusterated !!
February 14, 2013 at 7:18 AM
You are entitled to your own opinions and impressions about facial expressions during a presser and excited utterances made during a gunfight. (I've been in 2 gunfights, I swore a lot in both of them)..but CS gas, also known as "hot gas", is also referred to as a "burner" using law enforcement jargon. At least it was until this incident. That term will no doubt be discouraged in the future so that people can't twist and spin it to support an uninformed position.
February 14, 2013 at 7:59 AM
I respect your opinion, when i hear clear as day "burn that fn place down", "burn that motherf…..",it sure raises a lot of eyebrows, after the incident in Torrance, people need to ask hard questions, police investigating police is not healthy, i certainly would support an independent investigation to all these incidents.
February 14, 2013 at 8:54 AM
Hold on. Someone is actually upset that the cabin burned? Did they not see the whole incident?
The only thing more stupid than the shock of the cabin burning and KTLA's apparently being upset at that, are the comment of people being upset at that.
Who can possibly support Dorner?
He lost his gamble.Killing with a bullet is somehow more human than fire?
The guy was killed and I am glad it was him and not another innocent person.
The guy killed a daughter of a cop and where is the outrage?
February 14, 2013 at 12:20 PM
Yeah theres a big difference between shooting someone and burning someone alive. We arent living in Medieval times, where the mob gets burn someone alive. They chose to punish Dorner in the most savage way possible, to teach him a "lesson"! Cook him slowly and painfully . Forget the arrest and trial, instead they decided to bring on the superviolence. The San Bernadino PD is no better than Dorner. Barbarians!
They didnt indicate even once in the press conference that they communicated to him to surrender prior to the incindiery smoke bomb. They planned to kill him one way or another, as the police usually do in cases like these. Nobody is surprised by all this and many feel no less happy with the police because of all this.
February 14, 2013 at 1:55 PM
He had plenty of opportunities to surrender and he chose not to. He CHOSE to stay in the cabin when the tear gas was sent in, and again when the flames erupted. They did not burn him. They burned the house, and he chose to stay inside (plus he probably shot himself as they heard a single gun shot shortly after the flames engulfed the building)…
February 14, 2013 at 8:02 PM
So I guess that means police get to burn peoples houses down whenever theyr'e engaged in a street war. Im so sure burning a house down to get a suspect is in the cop training manual. Maybe their police chief should get some grenade launchers for future manhunts.
February 14, 2013 at 7:02 AM
Better yet donate the money to cleaning up Los Angeles streets and stopping gang violence that takes hundreds of young women's and men's lives in California's major city each year. That's the best place to start and where it will make the biggest difference to public and Los Angeles. The officers kids will be well provided for for the rest of their lives.
February 14, 2013 at 7:07 AM
Dorner's alive, on the boat that left from San Diego. This "standoff" was a totally staged event, made obvious by a CBS reporter being allowed to film the event at close range with no Kevlar protection and obviously overdramatic and phony camerawork not worthy of an of episode of CHIPS. Laughably fake. Someone metioned ID and a leather wallet….plastic and leather survives an inferno? Would they admit such an ignoble defeat and have the LAPD be the laugningstock of the world? Beck would kill himself
before that happened. Why no mention of forensics, dental records? Why would a man trained as a spy
hide in a cabin near a command post?
February 14, 2013 at 12:40 PM
really? You're reaching here. You watch too much TV and too many conspiracy movies. He was smart but made mistakes. Only one way in and out of a mountain so he screwed himself by going up there to begin with. Who was doing all the fake machine gun shooting from inside the cabin if it was a set up? They didn't mention leather wallet…they said ID. That license can survive an inferno…Jenni Rivera's outlived her fiery plane crash into the ground. He's dead.
February 14, 2013 at 1:27 PM
Aonymous I am with you on some points but the ID would not survive a inferno, talk to a firemen and also the ID and wallet was already found the weekend before in San DIego. I do believe he is dead but they need to stop w/the lies we are adults and the truth will all come out in the end and they will look worse then they did before.
February 15, 2013 at 9:58 PM
Yeah, when I heard they found Dorner’s license and wallet, I thought how the hell did they survive the fire?
I was employed in law enforcement for 14-years. The entire time I felt my life was in constant peril, not so much from the bad guys, more from my fellow officers who would do stupid juvenile things. As soon as I was eligible for retirement I bailed.
February 14, 2013 at 7:11 AM
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February 14, 2013 at 7:14 AM
They didnt set the fire just like officers didnt shoot 50 or 60 rounds into the back of the blue Nissan truck of the paper delivery ladies. We saw and heard the warfare like shots in Big Bear. Those werent coming from Donner but from hundreds of officers riddling the cabin discharging their weapons in a wild killing frenzy. Now word has it three of the officers shot in shoot outs were actually shot by their own people or so called friendly fire. They say the officer killed in Riverside and one killed in Big Bear took one of the random bullets.
February 14, 2013 at 7:16 AM
As far as the million dollar reward goes, noone was going to get it in the first place, they had no intention of taking him alive, they were hanging a million dollars over our heads and using the public as a pawn in their game.Dorner has succesfully made these cops look like dummies, hangingout in plain site..lol. You would think they would search their command post area thorougly first, skiers a few yards away, just another bungled operation. Dorner has lived up to his words as who he was targeting and that a command post was a high value target, he was right under their noses, to bad the police can't tell the truth like he has. Police burned that cabin down, evidence is to strong, keep wiggling like a fish and tell the truth !!
February 14, 2013 at 8:40 AM
I think they were very certain Dorner wasn't a skiier or a snow boarder. Pretty hard to carve the mountain carrying a .50 Cal sniper rifle.
February 14, 2013 at 8:47 AM
I agree 100 % well said!!!! Exactly what I was thinking..
February 14, 2013 at 7:28 AM
It's 2013 and instead of government and things getting better we have law enforcement that acts more like the police in Mexico. People are pointing out that no one has been done the way they have done Dorner. The Night Stalker just one example Charles Mason another. Yes what Dorner did was wrong but the way the police have behaved from the start is far worse. The paper delivery truck this fire way more crazy than Dorner.
February 14, 2013 at 7:28 AM
How do you explain a CBS reporter, with completely crystal-clear photography and no shaky, nervous, jumpy movement in the camera being surrounded by gunfire with what looks like rock-steady almost cinematic angles and smooth pan shots pointed toward the cabin BEFORE the blaze began? Wasn't this a second-to second sponteneous shootout? Who knew beforehand to give that reporter clearance to be in the line of fire with a SWAT team crounching down with a cameraman at something that's supposedly happening moment-by-moment?
February 14, 2013 at 1:12 PM
Wow…. I normally just read these for the entertainment value.. You make an excellent point. I agree that I've never seen the press have that sort of access to what we've been told was an exteemly violent situation. Good Point… Makes me think that there is more to this story.
February 14, 2013 at 7:32 AM
Cops commented they didn't know how long dorner was in the first cabin, then last night this couple came out and said they haven't been in there since last wednesday, then it snowed heavily on friday and they were out shovelling and saw no tracks up to the cabin, didn't the cops interview them ??Why are they telling us the didn't know how long ? They knew how long, they knew this would be an embarrasment to them and they keep trying to cover up, to no avail again !! They must think people are stupid or something !! Police burnt that cabin down and we all know it !!
February 14, 2013 at 7:35 AM
Think of this as a major psy-op, just for the sake of argument: equate manifestos that rail about
ciivl rights violations of innocent citizens by police with this story (called "transfer of association" by shrinks) eqaute those protests with a crazy killer, a psycho, a nutcase, a lunatic, "thank god they got him".
Perfect black op.
February 14, 2013 at 6:20 PM
Keep playing playstation
February 14, 2013 at 7:35 AM
Law enforcement counts on the public having a short attention span so they set out to kill this man to shut him up from the get go. They'e corrupt and they know it and so does former LAPD Chief William Bratton. Why do you think they brought Bratton in all the way from New York in the first place? "Corruption". Now Bratton is gone they're back to their old ways.
February 14, 2013 at 7:44 AM
Transfer of association: The next time someone mentions "oh, I think maybe our rights are being violated"….hey, man, don't pull a Dorner on me, you crazy lunatic.
February 14, 2013 at 7:46 AM
Like they said the previous press briefing, "this investigation is over and it's time to move on" Just like any news cycle they are hoping in a week or ten days things will settle down and we will all forget this ever happened, they will shove everything under the carpet and it will be back to business as usual. Does anyone believe beck will open up dorner' file and investigate ? If he did that he would have to open up about 50 others and expose the real truth, can't see that happening. We need more cops to come forward, minus the killings, to get this issue under control.
February 14, 2013 at 7:47 AM
yeah, cause a cabin in the woods spontaneously combust in the winter right after deputies are heard talking about burning said cabin, how many of us really believe in coincidences when it comes to the LAPD
February 14, 2013 at 8:56 AM
Killing with a bullet was somehow better than fire?
Stop looking for things to complain about.
He died at his one game.
February 14, 2013 at 7:49 AM
They must think the public is stupid. With the video and audio they have of this incident they would and should be prosecuted and convicted in any court. They try to blame all their actions on rogue officers when their officers act on instructions from top command. If you did an voice analysis of the audio "burn it".. "burn the f#@%er", "set it on fire like planned", "burners ignited we have a fire" like its a launch at Nasa or something. One voice sounds like McMahon's. Then they stand their and lie. McMahon couldnt even look people in the eye when he said that it wasnt intentional. And he made sure to say we didnt plan to burn him "out" of the cabin. Because intent was to burn him up "in" the cabin.
February 14, 2013 at 7:52 AM
of course they burned it down. I was sitting here with a friend when they found him and I told him I'd bet him a buck they would burn the place down…..We were drinking moonshine and talking out of our a's, but in 1 minute the stupid new show a fire from 7 miles away. LAPD is such a joke, but it's not funny. Our childhood friend is LAPD. He and we can't wait for him to retire from this obnoxious corrupt organization… The big news of the day was not the 2nd cop to go down from friedly fire, it was that I now have 2$$$$$$and that's all that matters. Not the corrupt LAPD. it's business as usual.
February 14, 2013 at 7:56 AM
The conditions of the reward were not met therefore it will go to pay for L.A.P.D. OVERTIME; after all they did contain him (arrest) and convict him (set cabin on fire).
February 14, 2013 at 8:09 AM
They lied about the reward just like everything else. No one expects anyhing else from LAPD Villalagrossa. If their lips are movin their a lyin and making up some lie of an excuse. Never a truthful word came out of LAPD or that crazy eyed no sou SBl McMahon's mouth. His eyes are black as coal just like his soul.
February 14, 2013 at 8:10 AM
the reward was NEVER going to be paid, because the LAPD never planned on bringing him in alive. That was the rouse they used to get the publics help in finding him.
February 14, 2013 at 8:14 AM
They planned from the start to set any cabin that they found him in on fire. They ha no intentions of taking him alive.
February 14, 2013 at 8:56 AM
As it should be.
Bravo SBSD
February 14, 2013 at 8:16 AM
this is fake as shit he bail out!
February 14, 2013 at 8:20 AM
Public opinion of LAPD, Mayor V and SB Sheriff McMahon at this point is zero. I just hope the people of Los Angeles see what Villalagrossa is made of and this next go round we get a new Mayor.
February 14, 2013 at 8:33 AM
Before the first gun fight i can clearly hear someone saying "hey come here". "hey you come here" "hey come here", then they say all hell broke lose, well one guy with a weapon compared to all those deputies firing randomly at anything, like they did in Torrance has raised some eyebrows. Even if it wasn't dorner and some joe with a gun not obeying commands they could have shot him in the legs, brought him down, and made and arrest. Dorner had to much to expose and he was going to die at any cost. So sad we will not be able to hear his side of the story as to lapd corruption. Sure he may have got the death penalty, isn't that what he wanted anyways, i really wish he would have taken his day in court, now nothing will be exposed.
February 14, 2013 at 10:38 AM
We did here his side of the story. It's written in his manifesto.
February 14, 2013 at 11:31 AM
There is a whole lot more to this story than just what is in his manefeso.
February 14, 2013 at 11:51 AM
Really? I would think 11,000+ words would have summed it up! Is there any reason to believe that through all of his ramblings and details in his manifesto that he decided to withhold his entire story? He knew he was going to die; he wrote about it. So what makes you think if he was alive that he would have more to say with regards to "his side of the story"?
FACT: LAPD has some major freaking issues.
FACT: They will make us believe (potentially) that they will re-evaluate the case Dorner wrote about.
FACT: The LAPD will drag this investigation into his case out for so long, we'll all be worried or discussing something else!
February 14, 2013 at 8:40 AM
It seems like LAPD etc has the news media in their back pockets. Seems LAPD monitors public comments then has the news outlets edit the tapes taking out parts that make PD look bad and make comments to support the PD.I've also noticed they've trying to put more likeable officers out for media questions and comments.
February 14, 2013 at 8:43 AM
The reward was just a bait and switch. Im sure the Mayor and LAPD have already split it up between the two of them.
February 14, 2013 at 9:00 AM
Apparently, no one seems to be outraged that the guy killed an innocent daughter of an ex cop, BUT the same liberal mindset will be outraged at innocent Ahghanistanis being killed by collateral damage.
One kill is intentional and the other accidental, and it's the intentional one that does not outrgae anyone.
The liberal hippies if the 60's have taken control.
February 14, 2013 at 9:06 AM
"he guy killed an innocent daughter of an ex cop" …..and this has been proven? how?
February 14, 2013 at 9:02 AM
Please, anyone, explain why burning the cabin was wrong?
He could have surrendered once it caught fire.
Why didn't he surrender?
February 14, 2013 at 10:42 AM
You're missing the point. They didn't want him to surrender, they wanted him DEAD! By burning the cabin down (if he was even inside) they also managed to destroy any evidence he had on him. Don't you think he was carrying information with him to back up his allegations against the LAPD aside from what he wrote in his manifesto?
The sad truth is that we are all being played fools by the authorities on this one! Corruption on all levels!
February 14, 2013 at 10:52 AM
I think the point is that they burned him down and later have the nerve to lie about their intent and actions. Personally, I have no problem with them smoking him out and burning the place, but then I question why they are blatantly lying about the setting of the fire. This whole story is about corruption excessive use of force and cover ups. I find it highly ironic that the story ends where it began, with lies by the police.
February 14, 2013 at 9:09 AM
PleaseKTLA seems to be making the fire an issue.
I for one will donate money to defend the SBSD if they are being sued for the fire.
KTLA is trying to make an issue of the fire just to increase more controversy.
Spillman, enough.
February 14, 2013 at 9:27 AM
The title of this article "Questions remain about dorner standoff ". Do you think !! I am somewhat happy the media has stepped up and started asking some hard questions. Why did they bring in all the chiefs for that press conference, just to look pretty, and not answer questions, it took them half the conference to introduce them, another waste of money !! As soon as the hard questions come they high tail it back to their blankets and soothers. Maybe they want to re-organize and dream up the lies they will tell to any particular question. cops investigating cops is not a healthy practice, bring in an independant investigative team to figure all this BS out !!
February 14, 2013 at 10:44 AM
Unfortunately, you and I both know that will never happen!
February 14, 2013 at 11:33 AM
Ya, it's a nice thought though, i'll keep dreaming..lol.
February 14, 2013 at 10:06 AM
Do you think if he tried to surrender, there would have been no way for him to surrender without being filled with lead anyway?
February 14, 2013 at 11:36 AM
If he came out with a white flag a waving, and they pumped lead into him, LA would be rioting !!
February 14, 2013 at 11:55 AM
Exactly! Although I hope we wouldn't riot over it. But A LOT of people would be PISSED!
February 14, 2013 at 12:05 PM
people are pissed already with the trigger happy cops, don't know what it would take to push them over the edge, killing even a fugitive with a white flag in his hand just might do it !! This is a hypothetical now.
February 14, 2013 at 12:17 PM
True
February 14, 2013 at 10:27 AM
The bottom line with all of this is we will never really know who was in the cabin. The authorities will say it was Dorner based on DNA/dental records but they can fabricate that information just like the next person. When you have a massive inferno like we all saw, it destroys a lot of evidence. Yet, like many others have said, they found a wallet and a drivers lic that were still recognizable? Wow, yet a body is burned beyond recognition where you have to use dental and DNA for identification!!! Dorner knew he would not be around long, his manifesto was in reality a good by letter. He knew since he crossed the line at the LAPD he was a dead man!!! He knew they would take him out, or he would have to take his own life because he would be cornered. Either way we will never really know what happened to him. All that he did achieve as he was hoping for, was to point out the corruption in the LAPD, which unfortunately is not unique. There are many corrupt police officers across the nation, heck we pay to go see movies made about them. There are also many police officers who are not corrupt and who take the oath of office seriously and give their life to save others.
February 14, 2013 at 10:30 AM
jbj cont.
We all know this, that is the reality we live in and with! Dorner, took his issue and made it public, at the same time his mind had snapped! What he did was very wrong and I do not condone it a bit, but what the LAPD did was also wrong!! Sometimes it does take an act like this to give us all pause to reflect on what we can do to make sure the next Dorner does not happen!!!
LAPD had the where with all during the many years he was removed from the force to get him the assistance he needed, either medically or mentally, they saw the signs but they seemingly turned their heads the other way.
My heart goes out to every family affected by this, it is a tragedy that did not need to happen!! So, what can we do to prevent the next one? Hopefully, albeit very painful lessons can be learned from this tragedy that will prevent the next one from happening, if we do not learn from this there are going to be many Chris Dorners we will deal with.
It is all very sad!!!
February 14, 2013 at 10:47 AM
Well said !!
February 14, 2013 at 10:48 AM
The words 'incendiary' device says it all. The very definition of word means to 'inflame'. Let see all the definitions in Webster : 1. relating to a 'deliberate' burning of property 2. pertaining to the 'malicious' burning of property 3. designed to 'start' fires 4.incendiary agent such as a 'bomb' or chemical causing fires to start 5. arson 6. a person who commits 'arson' No court in the world who listened to the comments Sheriff McMahon made "We used an incendiary device", would "Not determine" they set the fire "intentionally"!
February 14, 2013 at 11:53 AM
I heard on CNN yesterday from an FBI guy that no law enforcement uses incendairy tear gas devices, including tactical squads, it may have been an incendairy device of some sort, when they talk about tear gas i have my doubts, who knows this guy could have been lying also, bottom line they lit it up and now are trying to cover-up.
February 16, 2013 at 1:53 PM
Maybe the pigs threw road flare into the cabin?
February 14, 2013 at 11:57 AM
AMEN!!!
although I'm not religious, that's the best I could reply with
February 14, 2013 at 11:04 AM
One thing this situation proves above all else with the cabin fire, the warfare like shooting at the cabin and on the two innocent passenger trucks and neighborhood in Glendale shot up with well over 60 shells. All law enforcement agencies in Southern California are full of bullet happy crazed insane nuts.
February 14, 2013 at 11:32 AM
Hey screen name newbie! looks like the KTLA deleted your Crap virus comments. Servers you right. You slease ball.
February 14, 2013 at 12:07 PM
ass backwards cops you did'nt catch him when he was under your noes, so what are you lookign for in the burnt down cabin??? how about give the school that million dollars so we can keep some of the teachers and put after school programs and music back to the school and help that lady rebuild her cabin you all burnt down
February 14, 2013 at 12:10 PM
Thank God these tragic chain of events came to a firey end, with the demise of one Christopher Doner. Whether the cabin fire was set intentionally or not, its over. He could have come out of the cabin on his own, but chose not to. This now dead savage ape was a mass murderer. How can some of you idiots support a mass murderer? You can rot in hell along with him.
February 14, 2013 at 12:20 PM
Ape?!? Really? Are you racist or what "Country Rocker"?
February 14, 2013 at 12:34 PM
We DO NOT support mass murder by any means and anyone, this issue is the pertaining to the behaviour and actions taken by our so called professional police force, we don't condone dorner in no way at all, and certainly wish this situation never happened, unfortunatley it has, and the protocal and action of police are at question here, the cover-ups and unruly behaviour that has taken place over the last two weeks, have you been hiding under a rock !! you belong in a non democratic society pal, so go move there
February 14, 2013 at 12:37 PM
Exactly!
February 14, 2013 at 12:36 PM
why does the man who was carjacked feel he deserves the money? A) the couple in the condo are the ones who initially alerted police to his general whereabouts so without them they wouldn't have been on the lookout and B) the carjacked dude didn't lead to his capture, the Fish and Game led to him being cornered. At least the couple realize that the reward is for his capture and conviction and aren't expecting it despite being held hostage. This dude just lost his truck (at least Dorner let him take his dogs) and feels he deserves the one million? Please dude. If you knew exactly where he was and called a tip in to the police it's one thing, calling 911 cuz your car was jacked does not mean you get the reward.
February 14, 2013 at 12:57 PM
noone will be recieving this award of a million, the mayor was on ktla the other day and when posed the question he said he would have to investigate to see if anyone may be elegible, as far as he was concerned the reward was for "capture and conviction" , we were used as pawns in their scheme to kill dorner, if anyone gets it, it should be the couple that called 911 first, unfortunatley they have used their language loop holes in order not to pay, no wonder dorner got barbequed !! think about it !!
February 14, 2013 at 1:19 PM
This entire episode is without a doubt one of the lowest points in Los Angeles history. The whole thing smells of such institutionalized evil and massive cover-up that it staggers the mind. With all due respect to the victims and their families, I challenge anyone to remember an incident in L.A.'s recent past where violent criminals who killed or wounded innocent civilians in much larger numbers ever illicited this kind of epic military-level operation, other than the SLA/Hearst incident in the 70's.
Whose hand was on the hotline in Washington D.C. to prevent another Knapp Commission that
wiped out the entire NYPD in one of the biggest police corruption scandals in this nation's hiostory?
February 14, 2013 at 1:27 PM
wow lots of talk about corruption and the sheriffs department, LAPD, and secrets and on and on. Did we forget that innocent people were killed families damaged , kids without fathers. No matter what Happened to Dorner (and i'm not saying it did or didn't happen) you can't justify what he did. One thing that is common about complainers and armchair quarterbacks. They always have the answer after everything is over. Go be a cop make the changes since you know everything. I know I dont want to be a cop and shot at with a high powered rifle. Lets not forget many of these officers also served are country in the military . To Daisy may all the times someone shot at you with i high powered rifle were you able to hit them in the legs? Have you ever been shot at?
February 14, 2013 at 2:35 PM
Well Jack, first of all no i have never been shot at with a high powered rifle, bb gun that's it . I hear what you are saying, with all those bullets flying around in the beginning i can't understand why one of those deputies couldn't have brought him down then, dorner was out numbered , he could only shoot one rifle at a time, can't believe those deputies missed him with the amount of gunfire going on, even a simple leg shot !! Look what happened in Torrance, 50+ shots at the wrong suspect and they only hit the wrong target twice, maybe the brotherhood should head back for some more training at the firing range.
February 14, 2013 at 1:54 PM
According to what I found out and incendiary device is a flame thrower or firebomb used to ntentionally set a fire. So much for not intentional.
February 14, 2013 at 1:59 PM
Well isn't it amazing, beyond my belief, the mayor has come out and said the reward money will be handed out !! Mind you sounds like it will be shared somehow between the couple that was tied up and the guy with the dog. no matter to me just happy they have taken some positive steps in this horrible situation, thinking the mayor is probably looking for votes next time around, and not handing this out to the people who truly deserve it would put a wrench in abtaining more votes next time,he's probably got a knot in his stomach, funny he came out the other day and said the reward was for "capture and conviction " only !! Big change of heart, this smells fishy to me.
February 14, 2013 at 3:31 PM
They didn't burn it on purpose but after lobbing seven "burners" into the cabin they started knocking down the walls with an armored car to fuel the fire with oxygen. Otherwise if they were knocking down the walls to get him out why did they need seven "burners"?
A large part of the public feels that police corruption, carried to the limit, killed five people.
February 14, 2013 at 4:13 PM
Good point, thanks
February 14, 2013 at 4:31 PM
I don't understand how they found his wallet , when he supposedly left it at the airport . Just wondering , I suppose if he is still alive we will find out soon enough. My heart goes out to all the families affected !
February 14, 2013 at 5:59 PM
I think that his wallet was "found" after his (Christopher) failed attempt at trying to steal a boat at some dock. They "found" it laying on ground somewhere around there. How many wallets and identification did he have? This whole story sounds "fishy" at best, from top to bottom to me. I pray for all the families that have been affected by this awful tragedy. Period.
February 14, 2013 at 6:14 PM
Are the folks jockeying for position for the bounty also going to fight for remnants of Dorners bones and ashes to keep as souveniers? What a bunch of creepy people to accept any blood money from the LAPD.
February 14, 2013 at 8:44 PM
why did he wanna be an uncle tom cop to start with?………after this,wonder if lapd will hire any more negroes?……..they kiss ass to get a job, then they allways turn out to be horrible employees……….just don't hire negroes and your business will run alot smoother……since they like negroes so much, lets make them get their jobs from negro owned company's!…….when's the last time a negro has shopped ata negro owned grocery store?…or retail dept store?………never trust any of these thangz…..they don't bring s**t to america, except trouble,crime,and ebt welfare babies…….they look for other races for their opportunity's,goods,services,supplies,and groceries………why would white people like negroes that hate white people?….LMFAO!!!…..THAT'S THE SILLIEST S**T I EVER HEARD OF….LOLLLLL
February 15, 2013 at 7:03 AM
The two cops that were murdered had two kids each.