BIG BEAR, Calif. (KTLA) — Remains found in a burned cabin have been positively identified as those of fugitive ex-cop Christopher Dorner.
“The charred human remains located in the burned out cabin in Seven Oaks have been positively identified to be that of Christopher Dorner,” the San Bernardino County Sheriff and coroner’s office said in a written statement.
“During the autopsy, positive identification was made through dental examination,” the statement said. No cause of death was given.
The charred body was found in the rubble of the cabin that burned down after a dramatic gun battle Tuesday afternoon.
Dorner’s last stand with law enforcement came after a gun battle with San Bernardino deputies that brought his death toll up to four.
Dorner seriously wounded one deputy and killed another. Deputy Jeremiah MacKay leaves behind a wife and two young children.
“The deputy sheriffs that responded to this active shooting scene yesterday were absolutely true heroes,” Sheriff John McMahon said.
“It was like war zone, and our deputies continued to go into that area and try to neutralize and stop the threat,” he added.
McMahon has denied that deputies intentionally started the fire at the cabin.
Deputies were recorded on police radio calling on a plan to bring burners into the home
“I can tell you that it was not on purpose,” McMahon told reporters. “We did not intentionally burn down that cabin to get Mr. Dorner out.”
“Pyrotechnic-type canisters are commonly referred to as burners,” he clarified.
The department has also faced questions about how Dorner hid in another cabin –possibly for days — during the hunt for him.
The cabin was within eyesight of the deputies’ central staging area and in a place where officers searched, knocking door to door.
“I can tell you that the cabin in question had not been rented out since February 6,” said Deputy Chief Steve Kovensky. “As I said, there was an extensive search in that area of the cabins.”
Meantime, it remains unclear who — if anyone — stands to collect the $1.2 million reward that had been offered for information leading to Dorner’s capture and conviction.
The money is now in question because Dorner is dead and so he will not be tried.
The reward money is being discussed by L.A. Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa and LAPD Chief Charlie Beck.
Both men issued statements on Thursday saying more than 20 jurisdictions and entities are involved in the reward.
They say all of them will be coming together to collectively determine whether any individual or individuals qualify.
126 Comments to “Burned Remains Identified as Christopher Dorner”
February 13, 2013 at 11:03 PM
OMG..If any one thinks this is over and dorner is dead is dumb.
-He's alive
-The deputies in the shoot out was hit by friendly fire
-The deputy that lived said he didn't know where the shooting came from,Which means there was no shoot out.Because how do you shoot at some one if you don't know where they are?
-Dorner is too smart to let himself get caught and not do anything.
-How was his ID found but ID are plastic?,Most wallets are leather..Really you guys found that after ther fire? -_-
-The body found "charred but it was said it was a females body.
-The sheriff said dorner ran into the woods and began firing,I thought he ran in the cabin?
-No on never seen or heard activity in the cabin after the shooting or before it.
Lies lies and more lies..Admit it!! he is good and you guys failed good job officer duffy.
February 13, 2013 at 11:53 PM
Douche bag
February 14, 2013 at 4:46 PM
Idiot.
February 14, 2013 at 1:21 AM
S L O P P Y case for a conspiracy.
Your suggestions could not have been done . . . impossible.
At least make it sound believable.
February 14, 2013 at 1:54 AM
Twitter Hoax Claims Body Found In Burned Cabin Belonged To A Female, Not Christopher Dorner http://www.ibtimes.com/twitter-hoax-claims-body-f…
February 14, 2013 at 4:45 PM
Well OMG….. It's obvious what must have happened… This woman that you speak of and Dorner must have traded teeth.
February 14, 2013 at 4:56 PM
Wow! I knew dentistry had become very advanced but trading a whole set of teeth! Must be magic!
February 14, 2013 at 4:45 PM
People are morons. They want to believe the police that governs our society is good and wholesome.. in reality, they'll beat you to death or burn you alive if you question them. Pitiful that so many people cannot see the truth.. oh because a transient was beat to death (Kelly Thompson), it's okay? Most homeless "bums" are veterans themselves. Why not just run this country like any other Communist country?
February 15, 2013 at 9:09 AM
HE had a chance to come out. It was his choice to burn alive. Move to another country if you don't like it here.
February 14, 2013 at 4:54 PM
Sweety, you really need to cut back on the caffeine! The body was that of a male. Identification was done through dental records. As for his ID. . .what they found in San Deigo was his LAPD badge and a picture ID, which could have been anything, including a DMV ID card. Wallets made of leather don't burn very easily. Due to the tanning methods leather acquires a very high conbustion rate, which is why welders use leather gloves to shield their hands while working. If his CDL was in his wallet and the wallet was found under the body, there is a VERY good chance that it was intact. As for the rest of your assertions, please, take a downer and call us when you've re-entered reality.
February 14, 2013 at 9:07 PM
"his LAPD badge and a picture ID"
Just speculation, of course, but the picture ID may have been his military ID card. He was separated from the USNR on 2/1/13. Discarding his badge (why did he still have his badge, anyway?) and military ID could have been symbolic of rejecting his previous life.
In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if being separated from the Navy is what set him off, and that he blamed the LAPD for his failure to be promoted in the military and ultimately his discharge.
February 15, 2013 at 12:21 AM
Take a look at the manifesto again.
February 15, 2013 at 10:41 AM
Thank you. It is nice to know that there is still someone out there that has intelligence.
February 14, 2013 at 6:19 PM
Ok psycho you keep living the paranoid delusional conspiracy
Now take your meds moron
February 15, 2013 at 10:42 AM
Thank YOU!
February 14, 2013 at 9:15 PM
looked like a women because his fat ass had man boobs
February 13, 2013 at 11:11 PM
Oh and the woman that owned that cabin said her sister was there for a week last week a witness said he seen dorner there a week ago and called deputies how ever they never came to investigate the ones that where tied up is a cover up.How do you get lose and call police but have a sheet with a zip tie on your head and hands behind your back?..wtf.
February 15, 2013 at 6:50 AM
You are dumb
February 15, 2013 at 2:21 PM
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February 13, 2013 at 11:12 PM
Do us all a favor and hang yourself…people like you are a waste of resources for the rest of America.
February 14, 2013 at 4:48 PM
You are an idiot. Seriously.
February 14, 2013 at 5:03 PM
Or maybe learn how to spell "toting" if that's what you meant?!
February 14, 2013 at 1:09 AM
The questions were way too embarrassing for them to answer.
February 14, 2013 at 1:45 AM
if dorner was alive and ran for president, 99% of the negroes in america would vote for him……..and you know i'm right !
February 14, 2013 at 7:38 AM
Mark, you are very ignorant. You should learn how to be color blind buddy
February 14, 2013 at 4:54 PM
Thank You, Todd! You said a mouth full!!!! Mark is ignorant!!! Everyone always have to play the race card!
February 22, 2013 at 12:18 AM
I would only vote for him if he got a DNA test and he was REALLY REALLY black, not half black like Obama, geesh, when are wee gonna finally get a real black president in the white house.
February 14, 2013 at 5:41 PM
no Mark. You have to be able to tell lots of lies to be president.
February 14, 2013 at 9:01 PM
I'd vote for him—but…ONLY…after he had proven—he took out your racist,,….,azz!
February 22, 2013 at 12:19 AM
I would only vote for him if he got a DNA test and he was REALLY REALLY black, not half black like Obama, geesh, when are wee gonna finally get a real black president in the white house.
February 15, 2013 at 11:47 AM
Well I am one African American who wouldn't.
February 15, 2013 at 6:17 PM
Get it rights we're BLACK not negroes … Idiot
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February 14, 2013 at 7:36 AM
Questions were too embarrassing?? GTFOH, they are authority what are they embarrassed about? it dont take a week to figure out DNA on a human remains.. And LAPD forensic must be bottom of the barrel. For a city to put a million dollar bond on this guys head should tell you something. Bin Laden didnt even have that price tag lmaooo.. I believe he is dead, but this should OPEN PPL EYES!!!
February 14, 2013 at 4:40 PM
Bin Laden had a 25 million bounty on his head.
That's more than 1 million.
February 14, 2013 at 4:59 PM
First of all, LAPD forensics had NOTHING to do with this. San Bernardino Sheriffs Coronor did the forensics. Second, you can't pull DNA from body burned as badly as this one. It takes dental records or skeletal reconstruction.
February 14, 2013 at 6:32 PM
Hey idiot they identifoed the remains in 24 hrs
Try again you no life loser
February 14, 2013 at 8:05 AM
“The cabin was within eyesight of the deputies’ central staging area and in a place a sword is searched…..”
Everheard of spellcheck? Editing?
WTF
February 14, 2013 at 4:48 PM
Everheard is not even a word.
February 14, 2013 at 5:19 PM
I'm still wondering if the name "GRAMMERNAZI" was meant to be ironic or not.
I'm guessing not.
February 14, 2013 at 8:10 AM
Look how LAPD just shot at thise women delivering papers. They didnt announce themselves at all. They just shot!!!!! Now they are saying that they didnt intentionally burn that cabin down. You can hear an officer yelling in the background, “burn it down!” They dont want rhe truth to come out and they want us the public to forget h ow they shot at those women as well as that hispanic man a block away. People see what they want to see. You will always lose thinking like that. People are not gonna take it anymore
February 14, 2013 at 5:18 PM
I thought the shootout was San Bernardino Sheriff's Dept., not LAPD?
February 14, 2013 at 8:20 AM
The comment about negroes voting for Dorner, you make sure you stay annonymous. Being racist at this time or any time shows your ignorance. Grow the f;#&$& up. Stick to the topic. You sound like a D&@^# fool.
February 14, 2013 at 9:18 AM
The LAPD terrorizes white people too. They terrorize Holocaust survivors. They jail and ruin anyone who threatens their criminal enterprise.They get away with it because they pay off judges. Anything they say should not be believed. http://open.salon.com/blog/fernsy/2011/12/10/when…
February 15, 2013 at 1:29 AM
I will gladly agree to that! There is going to be corruption every where, but for a police agency the LAPD has taken it to a level that is beyond tolerable! They best have their ass's covered on this one! People are digging for dirt now for sure!
February 14, 2013 at 9:32 AM
They let that house burn down to the ground, it's hard to believe that somehow the wallet made it. Also, the story about the couple being tied down after finding Dorner in the cabin, doesn't really make sense, when other people are saying it was the house cleaners who found him and were also held hostage. I say the officers needs to get together and figure out what lie their going to stick with. And no one is talking about the officers that shot at the 70 year old lady whom they believed was Dorner for some strange reason. I would of loved to see Dorner live to see his case re-opened, because after reviewing the video of the suspect that was kicked in the face, one can clearly see that he has a mark on his face from when he was kicked. This takes me back to the Kelly case in Fullerton where mentally challenged individuals do not have the opportunity to stand up for them selves. I believe prior to his dismisal, Dorner was a great individual, you haven't already read his manifesto http://pastebin.com/TAzPRfPy
February 14, 2013 at 4:52 PM
Thank you! I just mentioned the Thompson case from the Slide Bar. Transient or not, you are not allowed to go around beating people to death or burning them alive!
February 15, 2013 at 9:13 AM
How can you say Dorner was great? He killed innocent people moron!
February 14, 2013 at 12:56 PM
I want to know how NO ONE heard gun shots in Irvine in the middle of the night. Really?!
February 14, 2013 at 4:53 PM
You will probably hear gunshots any night in Irvine.
February 14, 2013 at 5:01 PM
He had a suppressor on his gun. The only sound that would be heard would be a soft "thud." That's how.
February 15, 2013 at 11:50 AM
A silencer
February 14, 2013 at 4:33 PM
The only time Mark is not being a racist is when there is a big black slong up his butt!
February 14, 2013 at 5:01 PM
IMHO it is a tossup as to which of you is more trashy.
February 14, 2013 at 4:34 PM
Irvine is such a safe neighborhood, i don think they know what guns sound like,, (lol)
February 14, 2013 at 4:49 PM
I can only imagine how all of he conspiracy theorists are sitting around in their underwear, with tin foil hats, & crayolas talking about how Michael Dorner is still alive and brought the World Trade Center #7, while riding Loch Ness and staring at the Phoenix lights……….
February 16, 2013 at 10:20 AM
Michael who ??? Sounds like your the one in the tin hat !!! Common_sense…lol
February 14, 2013 at 4:50 PM
The LAPD have made some huge mistakes in this whole situation. I hope the two women that got shot at get more than a vehicle.
I hope some good investigation about the way the LAPD does business is looked into and not just by the Mayor's Office. It would be great to see many people come forward to talk treatment by the LAPD. If people continue to sit back and say nothing, then nothing changes.
Open dialogue is how change begins.
February 15, 2013 at 1:39 AM
I think people are really starting to get fed up not only with our corrupted government, police etc. but also with the economy, lack of jobs. I feel a revolution on the way real soon. People are fed up!
February 14, 2013 at 4:56 PM
Well finally they have come to the conclusion what was already known since the shoot out and the deliberate burning of the cabin, funny how they stand down on the dept yet continue to protect their own with tax payers money, 4 cops per family 58 families, you do the math, no cops in the street, no gang enforcement, laughing stock,, oh were not sure it's dorner yet, wake up you dummies, you have been hunted for 2wks now and it's over, stop wasting money !! Are you looking into dorners file or is that over now because he's dead ? Keep up the good work…lol…
February 14, 2013 at 5:41 PM
I read the manifesto, how did they get to 58 families???? I now hear the families are more afraid to have their guards leave….WTH??? How much more do the tax papers have to pay? Not to mention all the paid overtime for the funeral yesterday that majority of the officers didn't even know their "brother". The city is so full of crap!!!!
February 14, 2013 at 7:46 PM
58 as per lapd last evening on CNN, who knows who can be trusted these days, they say 50 well they never give exact numbers, sure you know the drill, lots of OT as dorner stated !!
February 14, 2013 at 4:57 PM
All Law Enforcement is corrupt…this was a case of a "good cop" vs "bad cop" cover up…they want us to believe that that was Dorner in the house so they can stop the opening of his case. The guy who got jacked for his truck only said it was Dorner to get the reward…and they still can't confirm that the body in the cabin was Dorner. Why? They don't want to pay off the guy who got jacked, and they don't want Dorner to be alive because he'll expose the LAPD and cops in general!! If Dorner did do all this madness that they say he "allegedly" had done, then he deserves everything and anything coming to him. But to let that house burn to the ground and say the remains of the charred body was in fact the remains of Dorner really confuses me. That cabin burned longer than a body being creamated. That body would have been burnt to ashes…SMH!! What a sorry story for a hoax!!
February 14, 2013 at 5:16 PM
Apparently they found his wallet and licence in there to boot !! go figure that.
February 14, 2013 at 5:25 PM
The cops made sure the burned the house to a crisp why? Because Dorner knew too much about the corruption from the LAPD. Why would they want to kill him so badly, why would they want to shut his mouth forever? There is a secret code between cops and he was going to violate that code.
February 15, 2013 at 9:21 AM
It was Dorner's choice to die. He was a coward by shooting people in cold blood and his choice not to go to prison. If he wanted, he could have turned himself in. But he didn't. I know cops who have been fired from LAPD and they moved on and went to work in private industry or back in law enforcement. Dorner had a chip on his shoulder and blamed everyone else for his issues. So try not to be so stupid and ponder such dumb questions.
February 15, 2013 at 10:29 AM
Oh, gee, I don't know . . maybe it was because he was shooting AND killing people. As for knowing too much . . . Dorner left the Department 7 years ago. Why didn't he blow the whistle in all that time? All he had to do was send letters to the newspapers, especially the Times. Everyone knows the Times HATES the LAPD. And what did killing people have to do with exposing corruption?
No, Dorner was a Grade A, extra large nutcase, and he got exactly the ending he wanted.
February 15, 2013 at 11:52 AM
Correct Secret28. But all lies eventually come out and when they do, LAPD will really suffer.
February 14, 2013 at 5:31 PM
Some Fake Ass Cover Up?
February 14, 2013 at 5:36 PM
Seems like there was a "feeding frenzy" around that cabin and they totally forgot that there were tons of listening ears on the scanners. BUSTED………….FUZZ……………..this is not going away.
February 14, 2013 at 5:37 PM
I love the way the LAPD worded the award $$$$. They never plan to pay anyone because Chris Dorner was never going to live. It states alive and prosecuted, there is no way the LAPD would let Mr. Dorner live after the way he put them on blast, how he made them look so stupid that they couldn't catch one of their own…. I oftened wondered what happened to some police they have been brought up on charges like the Mexican Police Gang where they all have tats to symbiolise their gang, have they too been promoted. Mr. Dorner was wrong with his actions but he had a fight worth listening too. I, the people want some answers….
February 15, 2013 at 9:23 AM
Too bad your man Dorner was a coward. Dont blame LAPD for his stupidity. He made his choice and a predictable one.
February 14, 2013 at 6:07 PM
I believe the LAPD is honest and they would never lie because they protect us and care about us. Now please excuse me while I feed my unicorn and faeries.
February 14, 2013 at 6:51 PM
FU ASSHOLEEEE
February 14, 2013 at 9:25 PM
What is a faeries????
February 14, 2013 at 6:21 PM
Great news!!!!!!!!!
Now rot in hell you gut;ess coward. A real man who loses his marriage, his job, and ambushes innocent people.
All you hero lovers this is your guy because much like you all he was a no life loser.
BURN BURN BURN
February 14, 2013 at 6:39 PM
Hell kicks Dorner out as undesireable.
February 14, 2013 at 10:21 PM
Address the bastard cop behavior also.
February 14, 2013 at 6:38 PM
It was all a cover up. Obama enlisted the help of Dorner to fake his death and infitrate the Mexican Drug Cartel. So Dorner can find all the guns from Fast and Furious and return the guns home, before the House Impeaches Obama
February 14, 2013 at 6:55 PM
Spearchucker…………………If this is supposed to be funny it is a failed attempt. If you were being sarcastic you failed also. If you were serious you need help……………..please seek immediately.
February 14, 2013 at 6:57 PM
if he's alive and ran for president 99% of all the negroes in america would vote for him!….AND YOU KNOW I'M RIGHT!………
February 14, 2013 at 7:00 PM
Sadly….I have to agree with you. Voting for Obama BECAUSE he was black is as racist as voting against him BECAUSE hes black.
February 14, 2013 at 7:14 PM
I listened to a majority of the shoot out on the police scanner dbms watching live coverage on ktla. He was using a suppressor on his gun. I’m sure once his gun ran out of ammo he used multiple weapons and at that point he would just fire without knowing out caring st that point that he had no suppressor on every gun. The law enforcement dad his cabin surrounded that is hire they know he was in there.
February 14, 2013 at 7:45 PM
This case makes me dislike the LAPD more each day. So now the 71 year old paper delivery lady is in and out of the hospital with an infection in her wounds. They also released the truck the two ladies were riding in has "102 bullet holes" . This bullet count doesnt count bullets that ended up in other cars, trees and houses. And wait for it they didnt really get the ladies a new truck but a used truck. Best of all about their story they didnt intentional shoot to kill and they didnt intentionally set the fire. Really?
February 15, 2013 at 6:27 AM
Doesn't matter if they set the fire on purpose or accident. California's arson laws are codified in California Penal Code 451and 452 PC. These laws prohibit willfully and maliciously…or even recklessly…setting fire to any building, forest land, or property. I'm sure charges are being drawn up as we speak as this would be a slam dunk conviction for any prosecutor.
February 14, 2013 at 7:48 PM
Video and audio records differ with their statements. And an incendiary device is a flame thrower or firebomb used to intentionally set a fire.
February 14, 2013 at 7:49 PM
Serve and Protect = Serve their needs and protect their interests.
February 14, 2013 at 7:54 PM
All I have to say is BS.
February 14, 2013 at 7:57 PM
Yes the deputies are heros because they have to take orders from commanding officers like this lying piece of crap McMahon.
February 14, 2013 at 8:16 PM
@ Tyrone you are just rude keep your negative thoughts to yourself!! Your the coward!!
February 14, 2013 at 8:44 PM
ktla and lapd need to stop saying " a case of mistaken identity", you guys know damn well that that you wanted to shoot 1st. so know questions can be asked! no justice!!! thats why no one trust the lapd. yes, even a few bad cops can mess up the whole dept. especially when you are all not looked at as cops cuz you turn a blind eye when your own coworkers are breaking the law. then you're too scared to stand up for whats right! you don't deserve to wear the uniform. wtf!?! thats why i will never trust la.pd. all crooked and corrupt. police your own! i wonder how many more times this has to happen till lapd is restructured?i really hope the lapd doesn't piss off anybody else. i don't want to see innocent family members murdered for the messed up things the lapd does on a daily basis. NO innocent people needed to die. did it get your attention though lapd? doubt it.
February 14, 2013 at 8:50 PM
ktla and lapd need to stop saying " a case of mistaken identity"
February 14, 2013 at 9:24 PM
Best place for Dorner is where he is at, HELL. He is a POS and deserved to be burned to death.
February 14, 2013 at 9:37 PM
so do the corrupt police!
February 15, 2013 at 7:41 AM
And he's waiting for you there in hell Big Daddy.
February 14, 2013 at 9:27 PM
I've had friends in law enforcement for years. This is just a shame and tragedy and I for one am not going to keep silent. This is corrupt wrong doing by LAPD and San Bernardino and it affects innocent people and officers who have to follow instructions whether they agree with their orders or not. I believe they could have taken this man in under different circumstance. I think he was wrong for killing innocent people. But how can they condemn Dorner when their actions are just as or more unacceptable. They call his actions insane, but behave more insane. You cant have government leaders like this.
February 14, 2013 at 9:27 PM
All you haters will be the first to call the cops when you are in trouble. I am willing to bet some of what Dorner said was true, but killing is not the answer. Or maybe it is for some of you numnutts out there…
February 14, 2013 at 9:33 PM
Dorner is in a better place with God. God understands and forgives his sins.
February 14, 2013 at 10:19 PM
Every single cop involved in the murder by burning execution of Mr. orner should be found guilty of intentional first degree muster and then executed by firing squad or hanged. Those brutal worthless b@st@rds. Burn someone to death?????? I hope you all burn in hell.
February 14, 2013 at 10:25 PM
Every cop involved in this execution by fire is a PIG!
February 15, 2013 at 10:34 AM
Your dating yourself . .
February 15, 2013 at 11:10 PM
FUCK YOU.
February 14, 2013 at 10:33 PM
Happy Valentines Day California.
We got our Big Bear playground back. Thank you! M,A,T,H Flores family
February 14, 2013 at 10:47 PM
It seems that there are a lot of cop haters on this site writing their thoughts about cops and especially LAPD So, why don't we have all cops in the state including LAPD go on strike. For a month? Then if you need police services and want a cop to intervene in a 911 situation you instead can call the ACLU to help your liberal cop hating ass. Cops and firemen are NOT paid for what they do…NO, instead cops and firemen are paid for what they might have to do and when we go to work unlike most of you, we don't positively know if we will come home from work that day. Just because Dorner made it thru the Academy it is not a guarantee that he'd pass field training and that goes for any boot who is lucky enough to first be accepted into a police academy and then graduate. There are a a handful of police recruits I.e. boots who don't make it thru field training and are thus terminated but they don't go out murdering innocent people and fellow cops. Dorner was evil and it's odd that there has been no mention of his having a dad when growing up. Like it or not cops are the only thing keeping the bad guys from harming citizens and liberal cowards who'd be the first to thank the cops for,saving them from the bad guys.
February 14, 2013 at 11:22 PM
so what they're doing is ok then? just wait till they mess with you, then what are you going to do?
February 15, 2013 at 6:44 AM
Public servant, don't use the "we don't know if we will come home" line. No one on earth knows that. Every day , any action by any different circumstance could make your statement true. Yes, you accepted a job knowing that was an issue. But you could be driving in your car and get hit by a drunk driver, or other some such other type of accident; terminal medical conditions; faulty wiring in your home; there are any number of reasons that life is cut short.
Personally, I appreciate what the intended work is with all emergency services personnel, but when we see blatant abuse of power by people who wear those uniforms, we must question the morals of an organization that turns a blind eye to assaulting (kicking; punching, beating) people because they either don't like the colour of their skin, or they are not well educated or they simply stand up for their rights.
There is a multitude of people in every community who now carry cell phones with video and/or audio functions who are recording situations that are immoral and illegal by police officers.
Police everywhere are taking to finding remote locations to carry out their assaults in many situations.
It has to stop.
You sound like a bit of a renegade yourself "Public Service. A strike is a little unreasonable. All that people want to see are honest, law-abiding people doing the job they were hired to do; serve and protect; not act like a gang and carry the mentality that they are untouchable and exempt from the same laws as everyone else.
February 15, 2013 at 10:44 AM
Oh I don't know. While it is true that no one can guarentee getting home safely, especially these days, very few people put on a uniform, badge and gun and go out there challanging the criminals to come get them. Personally, I'll take the cops any day. As for a strike. This would not be unreasonable. I have been reading all the hateful posts on this site, and for as many that spout hate for law enforcement, I don't see a single one that can offer anything better. If you know of one how about sharing it with the rest of us. Dorner was not some kind of folk hero or Robin Hood. He was a vile, evil sociopath who showed violent tendencies even in grade school. As for finding remote areas to carry out their "executions . . " That's just plain rediculous. Dorner chose Big Bear, he chose not to surrender, he chose to carry out his own form of executions. So why are you blaming law enforcement? No society is perfect, but if this one is so corrupt, maybe you should move to one that's not.
February 15, 2013 at 4:51 PM
Trust me astonished, I do not live in LA or anywhere remotely nearby. I did though work for a police force and the stories I heard from the officers on their activities shocked me to say the least. They found it amusing.
If you know of some nirvana where policing is not corrupt, please tell us.
I don't believe I used the word "executions" . .. I said "assaults".
How can you possibly be so naive to not recognize that the boys in blue make their own rules. Tell me what policy states that it's fine for a gang of officers to beat the crap out of Rodney King, shoot two women delivering newspapers, shoot at a young surfer. Let's talk about the Rampart Scandal. Shall I go on.
February 22, 2013 at 5:18 PM
Where to let that life time ACLU member know what time it is Astonished!!
February 15, 2013 at 7:44 AM
Why is it that every time someone criticizes law enforcement they are labeled a "cop hater"?
February 15, 2013 at 4:07 PM
Depends on how they criticize.
February 15, 2013 at 8:05 AM
Do not ever, ever question the LAPD.
Very bad things will happen.
February 15, 2013 at 8:28 AM
What I want to know is what happened to and what is on the DVD Dorner sent to CNN??? Remember Anderson Cooper got a package from Dorner but all they focused on was that stupid coin that had been shot up…. I want to know what was on the DVD, the one that was probably confiscated by the cops and was put through a shredder…..
February 15, 2013 at 9:03 AM
moron
February 15, 2013 at 11:18 AM
Enough already it is BORNER okay we believe you.
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