NEWPORT BEACH, Calif. (KTLA) — An Orange County woman who police confirmed helped lead them to the remains of a boy in Menifee said Thursday she received “visions” that helped her find the body.
Pam Ragland had no connection to the case involving missing 11-year-old Terry Smith but said she had seen news reports on television when a friend asked if she was going to help find the boy.
“Well, what happened is actually one of my friends called and said, ‘Aren’t you going to help with that?'” she said.
Then something happened that compelled Ragland to get involved in the search:
“All of a sudden I really had a vision of seeing this boy under a tree, and I saw a city kind of far away, and I saw this particular building off to the right,” Ragland said.
Ragland talked it over with her daughter, who she said was also “intuitive,” and then called the tip line.
She said investigators asked her to come to the command center but Ragland said she couldn’t.
Later, when investigators asked again, Ragland said she and her family headed to Menifee.
As she was driving, Ragland said she had another vision of the city lights and heard the word “no.”
When searchers wanted to go to the city to look for Smith, Ragland remembered her vision and told them not to go. That’s when she said she turned around and looked at the back of the store and said, “He’s back there.”
Ragland said most of the people were not listening, but an off-duty firefighter named Dave came up and asked her if she thought she could find the body if he drove her around. Ragland said she could.
They drove back to the property where Smith was last seen.
“We got out of the car, we walked up and I smelled something,” Ragland said.
The boy’s body was found near the tree Ragland said she saw in her vision.
Coroner’s officials were expected to determine whether the remains were those of Smith.
Smith’s half-brother, who reportedly was the last to see him, was later arrested on suspicion of murder, according to police.