‘Pope Francis Thanked Me for My Courage’: Kentucky’s Kim Davis Says After Attorneys Announce They Met


Rowan County, Kentucky Clerk Kim Davis speaks to a crowd gathered outside the county’s correctional facility on Sept. 9, 2015, following her release on a contempt charge. (Credit: CNN)

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Kim Davis, the Kentucky clerk who spent six days in jail for refusing to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples, met privately with Pope Francis last week, adding a surprising twist to the Pope’s first-ever visit to the United States.

The meeting came Thursday at the Vatican Embassy in Washington, according to a statement on the Liberty Counsel website.

Mat Staver, a lawyer for Davis, said the session lasted 10 minutes and was just between the Pope, his client and her husband. He said pictures were taken and will be released at some point.

“I was humbled to meet Pope Francis. Of all people, why me?” Davis said in the statement. “Pope Francis was kind, genuinely caring, and very personable. He even asked me to pray for him. Pope Francis thanked me for my courage and told me to ‘stay strong.’ ”

The Vatican had little to say about the meeting.

“I don’t deny that the meeting took place,” said the Rev. Federico Lombardi, “but I have no comment to add.”

The meeting added a political twist to Pope Francis’ first-ever trip to the United States last week. While he strongly defended religious freedom in speeches at the White House, Congress and Philadelphia’s Independence Mall, Francis avoided taking public stances on particular political issues.

Conservatives, such as GOP candidate Mike Huckabee, cheered news of the meeting.

Gay and lesbian Catholics, though, called the Pope’s meeting with Davis “puzzling.”

Francis DeBernardo, head of New Ways Ministry, an LGBT Catholic group, said the Pope sometimes seems to “talk out of both sides of his mouth” when it comes to gay rights.

For instance, the Pope has famously said “Who am I to judge” gay priests and urged bishops not to engage in constant culture war fights over same-sex marriage.

“The time for vagueness, ambiguity, and secret meetings is over,” DeBernardo said. “Pope Francis needs to state clearly where he stands in regard to the inclusion of LGBT people in the church and society.”

During an inflight news conference on his way back to Rome on Sunday, Francis was asked a question about public officials refusing to carry out their duties as a matter conscience.

“I can’t have in mind all cases that can exist about conscientious objection,” the Pope answered. “But, yes, I can say the conscientious objection is a right that is a part of every human right. It is a right. And if a person does not allow others to be a conscientious objector, he denies a right.”

Asked if that right also applies to government officials, Francis said:

“It is a human right, and if a government official is a human person, he has that right. It is a human right.”

A federal judge ordered Davis to jail this month over her refusal to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples in the Kentucky county where she’s clerk. Before being ordered to jail, Davis also refused to allow clerks in her office to issue licenses. She cited her biblical opposition to same-sex marriage.

Davis spent six days in jail for contempt of federal court. Since her release, she has allowed the licenses to be issued, but only with her name and title removed. Each license includes a statement saying it is issued “pursuant to a court order.”

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